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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:32 pm 
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I've never worked with Abalone and am planning to put in an Abalone rosette on my next guitar, was wondering if there were any archived threads available to help in this area. I searched but could not find any, but I know there has got to be a pictorial available here somewhere. Anyway, I was going to buy a precut/shaped rosette from a provider listed here before, so I really am looking for direction relative to cutting/joining the pieces in the rosette and glueing thoughts.Appreciate any help!

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Greg, not sure if this is what you are looking for, this archived thread shows a huge number of examples    rosettes

I did a search on rosettes in the topic subject.


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Thanks Anthony, i had fun looking at this thread again, good for inspiration!

Brock had a tutorial on abalone me thinks!


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I buy abalone rosettes from Andy DePaule. Most are 4.92" internal diameter.
He as several widths. Just route as you would any other rosette. Miter the
ends of each piece so they fit together. I typically
set everything in dry and then flood with superglue. Then run through my
thickness sander to clean up. (IMPORTANT - I coat my rosette channel and
at least 2-3 inches on either side with a vinyl sealer to prevent staining the
top with superglue....lacquer would also work)




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Here are some other picts I found. When I route my channel, I use a
dremmel with the stewmac attachment. I first route out the width of the
abalone. Then I route out wider for the purfling until a tight fit. I work
slowly and work my way wider both inside and outside to get a tight fit.
My purfling strips are not bound together. I just work in all 3 on the
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and inside. I go back and forth a lot. You can see how each piece comes.
Just miter to fit together. BTW I don't use ablam. I use real shell. It allows
me to have a bit more play with the thickness. With ablam you must
route flush, so when you sand you don't delaminate







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Andy, did you inlay the paw prints into the top?

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Thanks guys...what do you use to miter/cut the abalone, and when you say miter cut are you just referrring to a straight chop-cut on the abalone so they just butt up against one another squarely.

Can you use shellac to coat the channel and top to prevent staining? Will the superglue stick to it in the channel?

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You can see it here too:

Rosette inlay

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I miter with a bit of an angle.   Not just a 90 degree butt. To do it I use my
upright belt sander.

Lillian
As far as the dog prints, they are inlayed pieces of Koa left over from the
sides.


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Peter, i love the format of your website, thanks for sharing bro!


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Peter, that little mitering jig you have is really clever.


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Peter, I too like your jig! By the way is that a little sandpaper stick you are using to miter the edges?

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Yup, run the stick on sandpaper on a flat piece of plywood to get the shell to match the angle on the jig. Works perfect every time!    You can also leave the jig in a wider open position and then run it against a belt sander or disc sander too, but you have to be carefull not to sand the jig and loose the proper angle.peterm38991.0117592593

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