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Almost any wood gets darker when finished. So what will the vinyl sealer look like on its own .. then the Zpozy still has a golden hue to it, no matter if it touches the wood or not .. then lacquer has its own slight amber tint .. its all gonna add up isnt it ??? Once you seal the wood, the paduak wont bleed at all with nitro. even then, I find the answer to getting the wood not to bleed in the first place is spraying the first couple coats light - not to heavy so it has no chanve to sag or run. Once it settles onto the wood, then subsequent coats melt in, but are not disturbing the layer right at the wood to make anything bleed.

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Tony Karol
www.karol-guitars.com
"let my passion .. fulfill yours"

There are a number of lacquer suppliers that produce water-white clears. They have NO amber color. They cost a little more. Not available through normal luthier stores. Check with high-end paint stores, ie., dunn-edwards. Water based sealers will give you a much lighter, untampered color to any wood, especially lighter woods. I make samples of each combination for every species I use and keep them as a catalog. No guessing in the future.

Dean

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Dean

Michael,

I'd be leery of using z-poxy over a sealer. You might have adhesion problems.

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now known around here as Pat Foster
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Has anyone ever tried this kind of epoxy here from Lee Valley?

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=20011&cat=1,11 0,42965&ap=1

I'm asking because i will be finishing no 3 soon and would like to know if this one is good, sorry for the hijack. TIA!

Serge

Serge:
I've used Industrial Formulators epoxy a couple of times in boat projects, and I keep G5 on hand for '5-minute' projects. It works well and I've never had a problem with it failing to set up.
With a 1:1 epoxy it is a lot easier to measure out - even by 'eye' for small projects.
I have found that the IF epoxies (they don't make them, just mix 'em up- like WEST and System3- you're paying for their recipe) are a bit softer than WEST, which is my favourite (even though the 5:1 mix ratio is a pain).
The only way to really learn is to mix up some samples and see if they work for you.
Cheers
John

Sorry about changing the topic here...should have replied to Serge in a PM.
Back to padauk....

Thanks John.

Not sure which one that is Serge .. G2 I take it ?? I haves used it before as filler, nowhere near as nice as Zpoxy. Takes too long to dry, seems a lot more gooey as well. I use that sometimes for gluing sides to the end grain of a neck block at a cutaway. Its good stuff for that, on oily woods like coco or braz.

I just rubbed out the first of the Zpoxy filled guitars - no sealer over the Zpoxy, just straight shot lacquer - adhesion is excellent, better than shooting lac to bare wood. I'm sold.

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Tony Karol
www.karol-guitars.com
"let my passion .. fulfill yours"

Thanks Tony, i will then look for Zpoxy!