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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:34 pm 
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Mahogany
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I know that less folks use varnish as some other available materials, but i must ask anyway.

Does varnish have a shelf life? I know shellac is around 6 months, but I'm not sure about varnish or anything else. In case it matters, I have some tung oil varnish that I purchased around 1 year ago and just let it cure for 3 weeks after finishing a mandolin with it and the finish started peeling after I began wet sanding.

I think one or more of several things could have happened:
1) The varnish did not properly adhere to the shellac sealer coats. (definitely happened)
2) The wet sanding paper had something in/on it which dug into the finish and pulled a bit of it off.
3) any other issue I can't think of right now.

So, since the finish is ruined I decided to see how tough this varnish is and man, it took some effort to get my fingernail to scratch it!

Has this happened to anyone else? How can i make sure it doesn't happene again?

By the way, Merry Christmas everyone! (well, christmas eve)


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Koa
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Geoff,
What was the brand and name of the varnish you had the problem with? We need to start there to figure out what went wrong.
As for shelf life: it varies on the varnish. Most oil varnishes will skim over in a partially filled can unless you use Bloxygen or something similar. If the varnish skims over, you are pretty much out of luck unless you strain the remaining varnish through a very fine mesh filter. Even then, you are spreading partially polymerized varnish and it may not flow out very well or dry completely even.
As an aside, I was speaking with Paul Fischer last fall about the varnish he uses. He managed to lay in a stock of Behlen's 4 Hour varnish before it was discontinued. He says it improves with age and will not hesitate to use 4 Hour varnish that is decades old. Interestingly, he said it does not skim over in a partially filled can. That leads me to believe that there was some sort of spirit varnish component to the 4 Hour in addition to a polymerizing oil varnish. Odd that Behlen ceased production as it was a favorite of many.

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