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Thanks, JJ.
Any others?

Steve

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[QUOTE=Steve Kinnaird] Larry, I've got a question for you now that you're z-poxying: does the epoxy draw any of the red out of the back/sides and on to the white purfling?
I once used some white purfling against padauk sides/back, and it took forever to stop the leaching of color onto the white line. So I guess the question would actually be two-fold:
1) is bloodwood as prone to "bleed" as padauk?
2) does z-poxy draw out the color like lacquer can?

And anyone can feel free to chime in on these. (I hope this is germane to this post.)

Also, Larry, that color really pops beautifully under that first coat.

Steve[/QUOTE]

Steve, the purfling has remained nice and white (or in this case maple) with no noticeable bleed. With water it is a very different story. I was concerned after reading a thread or two about bleed but none detected.

And yeah the color really did pop nicely. I think the epoxy helps that a lot.

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[QUOTE=DannyV] Hey Larry,

How are you finding to work with?[/QUOTE]

I found it be quite brittle and very hard. It cracked right away when first putting in the mold (I was able to cut that section off after stopping the crack with CA). Pretty heavy too.

Please remember I have only built a mahogany and a rosewood kit guitar so my wood knowledge is pretty limited but it was harder to work with than either of the other two. Not bad though after understanding its character.

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Larry, I’m with everyone else! That is a gorgeous guitar!

I have some bloodwood in my stock pile, and have been wondering about using it.

You have left me with no doubts! Thanks for the pics.

Robert

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Great work Larry, tha attention and care shows and it will pay off on the day you will put the strings on, it should sound as sweet as that Lady in red looks!

I have to agree with Kevin--warm and understated (the guitar, not Kevin). Your wood and appointment choices look right on. Gotta like the crisp miters on the end graft, too!

Very nice, great looking purfling lines, sharp

Looking great, Larry.

I had the same question as Steve. As you recall, I mentioned that when I took some pics of my bloodwood set, I wet the wood with alcohol, and, man, did it bleed. Saturated the paper towel with brilliant red stain, and dripped red onto the floor of my shop (yeah, I wet it thoroughly).

So, what I'm wondering is: have you used Z-poxy thinned with alcohol in your process so far, or have you just been using straight Z-poxy?

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[quote]Looking great, Larry.

I had the same question as Steve. As you recall, I mentioned that when I took some pics of my bloodwood set, I wet the wood with alcohol, and, man, did it bleed. Saturated the paper towel with brilliant red stain, and dripped red onto the floor of my shop (yeah, I wet it thoroughly).

So, what I'm wondering is: have you used Z-poxy thinned with alcohol in your process so far, or have you just been using straight Z-poxy?[/quote]


Hi Todd,

Good question. I originally wet my side sets with water to force a bend and the red 'bled' ALL over the place. STILL have red stains on the mold and work bench. It was pretty cool actually that that much color could come out of wood. I digress.

I used straight Z-Poxy with NO BLEED. Have not tried it thinned with alcohol but with your experience I would test a piece for sure if you will thin with alcohol.

I'm going to thin some ZP for my redwood top and I'll try it on a scrap of bloodwood.

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No bleed on bloodwood scrap using 50/50 alcohol and Z-Poxy finishing resin - YMMV.

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Wow , Bloody marvelous!!...That soundport is spectac!!...I have done one soundport..3/4 inch hole, done after the box was closed...newbee (stupid?) question Larry..did you cut yours in after the side was bent or before.?.and what did you reinforce with?...oh and what did you use to cut it out with?...I'll stop there!!...cheers..she looks beautiful!

Irwin, glad you like it. Sound port cut in after sides were bent and I reinforced them with 3 layers of veneer w/b/w actually maple/black fiber/maple.

I placed a couple of side braces near the future hole location and then cut and shaped a caul to match both the inside and outside curve of the upper bout using a small bench sander.

Then cut the veneer to fit in the near square area formed by the nearby side braces. Epoxy and clamps.

If you check this link (go down a ways) there's a pic showing the veneers which I'm sure were necessary to keep the bloodwood from breaking across that narrow area.

Sound Port

Cutting it was a bear and took every small tool I had but I'd do it again.

Thanks again for the kind words

Larry

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Thanks Larry, sorry I missed the original post where you answered all my questions.. and thanks for directing me there! 

[QUOTE=LarryH] No bleed on bloodwood scrap using 50/50 alcohol and Z-Poxy finishing resin - YMMV.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Larry. That's great. It also amazes me. I wonder why it doesn't bleed at all with 50/50 Z-Poxy and alcohol, when it spurts blood like a severed artery when wiped with straight alcohol. Darnedest thing.

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Kudos from me too!

She looks great Larry!

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Thanks for posting these Larry. She drop dead gorgeous!

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Man... this is the first I have checked in on this thread.

Larry, that guitar looks great. Very nice choices of materials. The bloodwood bindings really make the aesthetics on this guitar. This is going to look great when it is completed.

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Thanks a ton you guys.

And Brock I agree that the Bloodwood bindings make the difference. I'm not sure I see enough guitars with the same bindings as the B/S woods. It seems to understate the design and adds an elegance - perhaps it's just the bloodwood but I have afeeling it could work with many different woods.

Again glad you like the design.

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    Man! That's so nice! I've only seen bloodwood used as binding! Outstanding choice! I'm kind of a sucker for red guitars anyway, this is right up my alley!

    Who was your supplier for the wood?

Nice job Larry!

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[QUOTE=Billy T]     Man! That's so nice! I've only seen bloodwood used as binding! Outstanding choice! I'm kind of a sucker for red guitars anyway, this is right up my alley!

    Who was your supplier for the wood?

Nice job Larry![/QUOTE]

Thank Billy - Got ALL the wood from LMI. Used their kit wizard and they bent the sides for me and thicknessed the redwood and bloodwood plates.

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