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I'm just new to the forum and intended this message to be posted with the title "French Polish Recipes with Hardeners", please forgive me.

I've been searching for recipes for French Polish (Shellac) that include hardeners such as Sandarac and Copol, but I've seen it at concentrations of as little as 1% by weight and as high as 10% by weight.

Does anyone have any experience with these or other hardeners? Would you please enlighten me!

Thanks... Greg Ehrmantraut

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I beg you... Please don't do this!

Guys... if you make a mistake in posting something please do not go back and delete the entire content of the post. At Mark Kett's request, I opened up the Sound Salon forum to allow people to edit their posts -- and almost out of the shoots we have the EXACT problem that precipitated us shutting the edit feature off in the other discussion forums.

Greg, I am sure your intent was innocent enough, so please no hard feelings about this post... afterall that was your first contribution to the forum....   We have just really struggled with people doing this, and we pull our hair out over this as admins.

Thanks.

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Brock Poling
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Greg,

Welcome to the OLF!

If you search all forums on sandarac, you'll come upon a recent thread that will probably answer some of your question.

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would not call Sandarac or Copol hardeners but rather resins. When I thikn hardeners I think of a chemical reaction like a catalist and base.

I know some French polishers that add sandarac to their cut but in over 30 years I never have so I cant help.

Some one is likely to jump in that can.

And also Welcome to the OLF glad to have you

[QUOTE=Brock Poling] <rant>

I beg you... Please don't do this!

Guys... if you make a mistake in posting something please do not go back and delete the entire content of the post. At Mark Kett's request, I opened up the Sound Salon forum to allow people to edit their posts -- and almost out of the shoots we have the EXACT problem that precipitated us shutting the edit feature off in the other discussion forums.

Greg, I am sure your intent was innocent enough, so please no hard feelings about this post... afterall that was your first contribution to the forum....   We have just really struggled with people doing this, and we pull our hair out over this as admins.

Thanks.

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How can we? We don't have edit buttons any more, at least I don't

That was not a grip. just curiosity

I think Greg just accidentally hit the post button before he finished his post

Brock you should have used your  button.  OK, OK  I'll give you a button too.  Are you happy now?  I don't know what happened - All I saw was an empty post, which I have done before by accident.

WELCOME to OLF Greg.  There have been discussions on this subject before, and there has been a pretty extensive one on U-Beaut Hard Shellac which was pretty interesting.  Check the archives.

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OOPS!  Took too long making the RANT button.

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[QUOTE=WaddyT] Brock you should have used your  button.  OK, OK  I'll give you a button too.  Are you happy now?  I don't know what happened - All I saw was an empty post, which I have done before by accident.WELCOME to OLF Greg.  There have been discussions on this subject before, and there has been a pretty extensive one on U-Beaut Hard Shellac which was pretty interesting.  Check the archives.
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What happens is someone decides at somepoint in the future that they no longer like their post, or original comment and goes back and either entirely remove them (as this post was) or substantially alter them to the point where the following discussion becomes weird.

This is no slight on Greg. The problem has existed long before this post...

That kind of screws up the archive, but even worse, on posts where someone feels offended, attacked, slighted, or otherwise, I will get a PM asking me to look into it sometimes to find that the original post is gone.

Sometimes the offended party is clamoring that the OLF, Lance or I have hurt their business yada yada yada and they are going to sue for defamation, blah blah blah.

And in one case we had a significant member go back into the archive and delete and make radical changes to many (if not all) of their posts going back to the inception of them joining the group. That really screws us up.

So.. again, that is why there is no edit button.

But, you guys were wearing me down and I thought "hey... maybe I am throwing out the baby with the bath water here... and we should turn it back on." When Mark asked me to turn it on for the Sound Salon I thought this was a good opportunity to try it.

.. and it is deja vu all over again.

This is mostly my little hissy fit over something I wish we didn't have to do. Maybe a future version of the software could limit how long an edit would be available, but this software does not seem to offer it.

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Brock Poling
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.polingguitars.com