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I think the employer/employee model is inapt here.

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I think the employer/employee model is inapt here.

Not completely.

 Sure, we're not paid, but just like an employer doesn't have a business if the employees walk out on him/her, a forum is nothing without its participants.

A quick glance at the top of each page shows how many sponsors there are, and without knowing what they each pay, one can still guess at a number, and do some quick math. There's some serious enough coin being generated here, yet we can't have software that allows one to edit one's post? I understand time constraints, but... Lets not even go over the speed issue, as that's been beat to death, also, and it's still seriously SLOW here. I find myself scanning threads, and opening interesting ones in new tabs in order to naggivate the place. Buy some damned bandwidth, or move the server to a place that can better serve its needs.

It's the software not bandwidth, nor server speed, and the guys have been in a testing phase to be sure that we retain the most data and so on. Seems worth it to do it the right way.

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To return to cocobolo for a moment...

Coco is fast becoming my favorite wood, and I use it for acoustic and
electric guitars, as well as violins and mandolins. What seems to relate to
it's "resinony-ness" is the amount of black lines in the wood. I've found
that the resin is heaviest there. I stopped wiping the wood with solvent,
because capillary action just draws more resin up to the surface and the
solvent helps it move to the surface quicker!

As mentioned previously, a scraped and/or planed edge glues the best. I
think this may be because sanding "coats" the entire surface with a film of
resin. I've never had a glue failure with coco, but I always use a hand
plane on the gluing surfaces. I've noticed this black lines-resin relation in
other Dalbergias as well, mostly Braz, Madagascar and Bois de Rose.

Oh, I forgot to add - I've never tried baking (I'd get killed by She Who Must
Be Obeyed!). But I like to age coco before I use it. Three or four years works
really well, but I understand that one can't wait four years before using a
piece of wood, usually. I buy mine in big lots, saw up back/side sets, bridge
blanks, fingerboards, binding stock, fiddle/mandolin back blanks, etc. and
just set them aside. It takes me so long to complete an instrument that the
stuff is well aged by the time I get to use it! It seems to help the resinony-
ness compared to using freshly cut coco.

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I think the employer/employee model is inapt here.Not completely. Sure, we're not paid, but just like an employer doesn't have a business if the employees walk out on him/her, a forum is nothing without its participants. A quick glance at the top of each page shows how many sponsors there are, and without knowing what they each pay, one can still guess at a number, and do some quick math. There's some serious enough coin being generated here, yet we can't have software that allows one to edit one's post? I understand time constraints, but... Lets not even go over the speed issue, as that's been beat to death, also, and it's still seriously SLOW here. I find myself scanning threads, and opening interesting ones in new tabs in order to naggivate the place. Buy some damned bandwidth, or move the server to a place that can better serve its needs.
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you know Mario... I certainly appreciate your knowledge about guitar building and I think you make a valuable contribution in this area, but nobody is making you come here.

We have a new system in the works, it is going through its bug testing fixing stage now.. it has been a tough road to hoe considering the modifications we made in this software. Porting the user database has been no fun, and it may still not be completely worked out yet. But things are happening.

We provide this site as a service ... if you care to join in and discuss guitar building great. If you don't like it nobody is forcing you to be here.

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Brock Poling
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.polingguitars.com

We provide this site as a service

And you sell this service to your sponsors, and sell memberships to users, thereby generating income, thereby creating a business from the service. As users and paid members(not me, but I had considered it), we should expect things in return, and as the owner, you should expect and tolerate a bit of criticism, even in the form of complaints, and try to grow from them. I wasn't aware that new stuff was in the works, but since it looks and acts the same as it did a year ago when i last was here, I had no reason to think anything was in the works.

carry on...

nobody is forcing you to be here.

Correct. I'll keep that in mind. <wink>

Stick around, Mario. You be Grumpy, I'll be Curmudgeonly...

Hmmmmm... grumpy...did somebody's car not make the Chase this year??? Go 24...

I'd better grab 'Gruff' before all the good ones are taken...

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Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services

Don't go rubbing cocobolo on yourself, or anyone else!

It is a sensitizer, and that means that if you're not allergic today, repeated exposure will render you so. For some, that doesn't take much exposure, for others, it will take a lifetime's. But don't shorten that time frame by doing "tests". There are a lot of beautiful, great sounding rosewoods out there; choose another.

If I worked in my home(some would argue that my shop IS my home...), I'd strike coco off my list tomorrow. I've already become sensitized to Pauferro, and have problems with Spanish Cedar, where I had no issues with either before. then there's nitro lacquer... One sensitivity seems to lead to another. Once the immune system gets hyped up, it seems to get out of control more quickly. Don't force it. be smart. Sprinkling your family's toilet seat with cocobolo dust may seem funny as they walk around scratching their butt all day, but it isn't smart <g>

[quote=Mr. Grumpy]Sprinkling your family's toilet seat with cocobolo dust may seem funny as they walk around scratching their butt all day, but it isn't smart <g>[/quote]

OK. Now that's funny right there.

I have nothing better to add to this conversation.

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Edit:

Not that I would ever do that, honestly...........well maybe that brother-in-law I don't like

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Oh, "Grumpy" is Mario! Why didn't you say so? How are things in Iroquois Falls?

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Howard Klepper
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[QUOTE=Howard Klepper] Oh, "Grumpy" is Mario! Why didn't you say so? How are things in Iroquois Falls?[/QUOTE]

Really, Howard? Who else in the world could it have been? Had anyone else used that pseudonym, Mario would have been all over them like white on rice! <VBG>

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JJ
Napa, CA
http://www.DonohueGuitars.com

How are things in Iroquois Falls?

Well, apart from the fact that I'm knee deep in $!#^ in my dug-up septic field, not too, too bad <sigh> We had our first real frost last night, with temps dipping below freezing for the first time this fall, also. But that's a good thing; means I can finally park the de-humidifier.

Thanks for the avatar thingie, JJ.... methinks it fitting.

Perfect!     

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