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 Post subject: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:04 pm 
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Grizzly makes an Industrial Spiral Cutter head (http://www.grizzly.com/products/h2879)
Has anyone used one yet and how well does it work???

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Rich,

Check out Byrd Tool. I noticed in the other thread you are interested in using one in your shaper, which they make for that use:
http://www.byrdtool.com/SHELIX%20shaper.html
The Shelix gives a true shear cut since the inserts are on an angle.I don't own one but have used the Shelix in a jointer...I want one.

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Rich,

Check out Byrd Tool. I noticed in the other thread you are interested in using one in your shaper, which they make for that use:
http://www.byrdtool.com/SHELIX%20shaper.html
The Shelix gives a true shear cut since the inserts are on an angle.I don't own one but have used the Shelix in a jointer...I want one.

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:55 pm 
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I've got a 3" tall Shelix on order directly from Byrd. Should be here any day now. I'll let y'all know how it works on my 3 hp shaper.
Some of the Grizzly cutters are made by Byrd. Not sure if the one you're looking at is.
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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:58 pm 
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I have the Grizzly jointer with the spiral cutterhead. It is a terrific machine. No tearout at all when joining figured maple, etc., just a clean cut. Highly recommended!

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Hey Charles,
I'd be interested in seeing what you do with your shaper, jigs, etc. I picked up a Grizzly 3 HP shaper recently, but haven't done anything with it yet...


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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Hey Charles,
How's the new shelix working for you?


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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Sylvan, (or anyone else who's used them)

Have you rotated the cutters yet? How long do they stay sharp compared to HSS? Do they re-seat easily and accurately when you rotate them? Do you get any ridges?

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I don't know about the particular cutterhead in this thread, but I haven't had to rotate the carbide knives in my General helical head jointer since I've been in business...at four sides, if I rotated them next week, that'd make six years life from a set! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:57 pm 
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I've used the grizzly jointer with the spiral setup. Most beautiful cuts I've ever seen from a jointer. I was able to join tops and backs straight from the machine with no cleanup. Simply amazing.
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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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Shelix head arrived yesterday, and after a little modification to the spindle of my shaper is on the machine. Boy howdy is that a fearless cutter! Not for use by the faint of heart, inexperienced, intoxicated or otherwise impaired.
I'm doing a run of necks now and taking pics along the way. I'll put 'em together for a slide show when I'm a little further along.
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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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I finally got over to my shop to measure my spindle capacity under the nut and its 4”. With a rub collar I would have to get the 3” cutter head and that would leave my short for what I want to do. My shaper is a three HP machine with an inch and a quarter spindles; you would think it would have a longer spindle. [headinwall]

What size cutter heads are any of you guys using?

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:45 pm 
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I had to put my spindle in the lathe and "lengthen" it about 1/4" to allow for the cutter and bearing.
Not sure what operation (in guitarmaking) that requires more than a 3" tall cutter...
You may be able to change the spindle to a longer one if need be.
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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:33 pm 
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Chas Freeborn wrote:
I had to put my spindle in the lathe and "lengthen" it about 1/4" to allow for the cutter and bearing.
Not sure what operation (in guitarmaking) that requires more than a 3" tall cutter...
You may be able to change the spindle to a longer one if need be.
-C

The heel on my acoustic necks are 4” tall and the width on the headstock 3 ¼”.
What I would like to do is be able to shape the entire back profile of the neck in one pass.
Then do the side profile.
I might be able to recess the nut into the cutter head or just give the 3” cutter some more consideration.
I wish the diameter was 3” instead of 4”.

Looking forward to the slide show…

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 Post subject: Re: Spiral Cutter head
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I have used the spiral cutterheads on both the Grizzly joiners and planers. I love 'em.


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