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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:11 pm 
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I was wondering if anyone has used dogwood for a bridge plate. I know that it is very hard and dense. Tough as nails! It also has very tight grain, almost invisible grain lines. Seems like it would be a very durable wood for a bridge plate. Anybody?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:45 pm 
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Mark buddy durable is part of the game for a good bridge plate but does it ring well. I don't know so I am asking?

Another consideration is weight. If the weight of a bridge can impact the performance of a guitar top so too can the weight of the bridge plate.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:16 pm 
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Hesh,

A friend of mine uses dogwood to make "primitive" type furniture, tables, stools, and such. He cuts it in the spring so the bark peels off easily. He uses a draw knife and a shaving horse to peel the bark. I always thought that it might make a pretty good bridge plate, but I have never used it. I thought somebody might have experience using it as such. It is heavy for sure!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:59 am 
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You might get that "bark" some people listen find desirable in a guitar.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:14 am 
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Speaking of different wood for bridge plates, what about black locust? I have a log of black locust that is too short for backs or sides, will this make a good bridge plate?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:51 am 
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Howard Klepper wrote:
You might get that "bark" some people listen find desirable in a guitar.


I'm more a "growl" man myself but I guess that would also work.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:53 am 
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I'm a tree hugger on this one folks.

They are absolutely too pretty in the Spring to cut for wood. I always cringe when someone cuts one of these they grow so slowly.

I have one just outside my shop door and enjoy it immensely.

I bet if you asked and "paid the shipping", we OLFers could send you a dump truck load of bridge plates of a myriad of species "for free". [:Y:] [uncle]

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:14 am 
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They grow like weeds down here Bruce, and mine just started blooming on Sunday. The redbuds are blooming too and its a pretty looking spring so far.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:42 am 
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I lived in South Georgia for a while They are almost nuisance tree down there. Dogwoods kill my wife in the spring. and for some reason attracted a large Nat commonly call love bugs. It's swarms would darken spotlight during their bloom. I am no tree hugger but I am not a slash and burner either but sometimes you have to remove trees to survive in you environment. We had to have 3 taken out and tried to get an arbor-est to relocate them and was told they do not transplant well at all so we had them cut down. The timber was donated to a local wood working technical school that kiln drys it and uses to build unfinished furniture like spindle Charis.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:59 pm 
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Who sells Honduran Rosewood BP's???Or Osage O? bliss

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:05 pm 
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MichaelP wrote:
Dogwoods kill my wife in the spring. .


Great...... why didn't you tell me this when I was married????????


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Frei wrote:
Who sells Honduran Rosewood BP's???Or Osage O? bliss


Bob C at RC tonewoods, one of our great sponsors, has it on occasion. I noticed his last batch of Argentine persuasion lasted only a few days.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:04 am 
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I meant HR Bridge Plates. Eat Drink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:27 am 
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Once in a while I see OO turning stock at our local Windsor Plywood store (very misleading name, they carry exotics too) or Woodcraft. It's always been pretty wet.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:55 pm 
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I hope no one is selling bridge plates. At some point there is a limit to what you buy precut, unless you want to assemble a kit.

HRW is often somewhat brittle, although it is hard, heavy, and rings wonderfully. You might consider laminating it for use as a plate. I have just started to use it for bridges; got some nice quartersawn blanks from BobC.

Black locust is the strongest of the N. American hardwoods; wears like iron. I have no idea of its damping characteristics, but you could hardly make a better choice for wear resistance..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:23 pm 
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Al Carruth did some testing of Black Locust recently and found it was almost identical to Brazilian Rosewood in most of the tonal/density/damping characteristics.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:04 pm 
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I have some American Osage Orange and some Black Locust. For you folks that drill holes in your bridge plates (standard, pinned bridge) what is your favored grain orientation for bridge plates? (I assume rift cut.)

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