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Dave Anderson
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This is a little tip I picked up from Bob Gleason,a fine luthier out in
Hawaii.I thought some of the many new guys
who haven't seen this yet could use it. Simply
sand the inside ,lower corner of your binding for a better fit.I use my Dremel
with a miniature drum sander. It works very well.

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Don't you think it would be a better idea to fit the binding correctly? A suggestion: if your binding is .090 cut your slot .100. Then sand the side level with the binding and everything fits perfectly!

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I'm not sure, but I think the original point is that the inside corner in the channel is sometimes not exactly a sharp square for a number of reasons. Rounding the corresponding part of the binding eliminates any interference.
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Dave buddy I am not sure what problem this technique seeks to solve. Are we talking about how the shape and domes of a guitar resist a pre-bent, but still flat binding fitting well?
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I've been doing that for years. Sandpaper or a file work well. You just need to break the corner.

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It just seems to fit easier for me when I tried this Hesh. I think WBergman has it right in his post that the inside corner
is sometimes not always perfect and to sand just a bit makes it fit right in flat.

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I do this too, but I just run a sharp scraper along the inside / bottom corner of the binding, one or two passes is enough.

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Exactly, even when you use a brand new bit it is not uncommon that the bit has banged against something that has taken the dead sharp 90 degree corner to a micro fillet. Thus when you try to seat the binding the lower edge wants to push out by the micro ledge left behind by the bit. Adding the bevel to the binding eliminates the interference. My guess most have experience the problem and did not realize it.

This is not really a new and or lutherie exclusive technique. If you talk with most any top notch cabinetmakers about inlaying decorative purling and borders. Most will tell you to do the same thing. even when the channel was cut by chisel
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Excellent and I just learned some thing - Thanks Dave! [:Y:]

So this could also be done to the binding prior to bending in a Fox style bender so long as one picked the correct corner for each respective binding.

I'll give it a try on the current guitar.
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I'm doing it too while removing the bending pipe marks.

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Yup, I do it also. Sandpaper folded a few times, held against the binding, and I'll pull the binding through. Rounds it over nicely...
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Yep - back -bevels in furniture and casework help trim pieces fit better and make it easier to scribe them if necessary to irregular edges. Same principle is being applied here. Its not unlike when you undercut the neck around the tenon. You are eliminating any wood that could concievably hold the joint apart when you put the two pieces together.

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Hey, I do it too!

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The Amalgamated Brotherhood/Sisterhood of Binding Bevelers, Fitters, and Fasteners Local - Chapter 421 thanks you for your continued participation and support. A few notes to keep you up to date...

- Nominations are now open for Chapter officers, with elections at the April general meeting

- A fish fry and wine tasting will be held next weekend at the Chapter hall to support our 2008 bulk purchase of scrapers and abrasives

- Our Anger Management Support Group reports that three of our brothers have gone at least 30 days between uncontrolled expressions of rage directed at uncooperative bindings. Two of them received achievement awards (green chips) from the Chapter, while the third member will receive his award after release from St. John's, where he is attending the Titebond Addiction/Abuse Recovery Program...our prayers are with Brother Adolfo for a speedy recovery and program completion.

- Please do not park in Brother Mario's spot (immediately to right of bar entrance)...he gets very testy, which upsets the new brothers/sisters.


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