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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:32 pm 
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Is/was that the Tacoma Narrows bridge Michael?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:20 am 
All I can say is that it works and it's stupidly easy...

Yes, catalyzed polyester over rosewood sealer over a coat of well dried Waterlox on the tops...and yes again, the finish sticks like glue...and you can superglue to it...and you can clean off excess superglue with superglue solvent.

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I vacuum clamp it. I have the LMI model and it works great. In fact I have one going right now (which is why I'm on OLF). I can't see myself going back to regular clamps; it works like a charm every time with little to no setup needed once I have the bridge in place.

I put masking tape in the exact outline of the bridge, which is also used in protecting the finish on the rest of the guitar while I remove the bridge finish with solvent and a chisel. I have it so that the bridge sits snugly with no room to move. Apply glue, put vacuum clamp in place and walk away and post about how I glue bridges on OLF... doesn't get simpler than that.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:29 am 
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Even when I was only building steel strings I always followed the practice, that a lot of classical builders use, of gluing the bridge on before finishing the top. I like to string my guitars up in the white and do any final thinning of the top in the lower bout to get the response I'm after. I don't find any real problem with French polishing the top with the bridge in place. As I use a fully bolted on neck, after I've got the top as I want it I just unbolt the neck to complete the finish.

On my lutes, well I glue the bridge on before even gluing the top onto the shell, with no access to the underside of the top once glues on, and a 0.065-0.070 top, applying too much pressure after the top is installed is asking for trouble.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:33 pm 
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Guest wrote:
All I can say is that it works and it's stupidly easy...

Yes, catalyzed polyester over rosewood sealer over a coat of well dried Waterlox on the tops...and yes again, the finish sticks like glue...and you can superglue to it...and you can clean off excess superglue with superglue solvent.

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Rick,
Thank you for saving me a lot of time. I'll be doing this from now on.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:28 pm 
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Hey guys,
How do you handle squeeze out with the vacuum clamps?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:14 pm 
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Get hip to DeGlueGoo. It's basically an acetic acid gel that dissolves all water-based glues and makes for very easy cleanup. And to your questions about "does it work on?", the answers are "yes" if you read the part where I said water-based.


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Terence Kennedy wrote:
Hey guys,
How do you handle squeeze out with the vacuum clamps?
Terry


My experience with titebond is that instead of beads, you get tiny baloons. Very easy clean up with a very sharp chisel.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:16 pm 
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That looks like a Tim Burton bridge 8-) Lovely lips.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:20 am 
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Rick, I got to admit your method for glueing bridges is highly tempting. How long do you wait before putting strings on? And how long have you been doing that?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:31 am 
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I'm slightly paranoid, so I let the glue set for three or four hours before I string them up. Been doing this for several years on acoustics, but it's been a good twelve years on our Renaissance semi-hollow guitars. Admittedly, those also have screws going into the centerblocks...belt and suspenders kind of thing...but thats a good 2,000 guitars and basses now. I've not had any acoustic bridges pop off that were done this way.

The key, though, is getting your finish schedule down to where you've got really good adhesion, and that we do.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:57 am 
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Thanks for the info.

I'll certainly try that soon.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:56 pm 
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This question is for Rick Turner. Having made the plunge into the world of polyester, I would now like to try securing my bridges with super glue. I was hoping you might give me a step by step set of instructions for alignment, glue application, tips or tricks. Also anybody who has tried this that would like to chime in...I am all ears. I know the process works, but I now have guitars waiting for bridges and I don't feel like making a bunch of firewood.

Thanks in advance!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:04 pm 
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Terrence;
I turn off the vacuum valve & remove the clamp fixture after 8 - 10 minutes & clean up the squeeze out as quickly as I can, (a piece of spruce about 1/8" X 1/4" sharpened like a skew chisel works nicely. Start with a freshly cut bevel every time.) & then get the clamp down for another 50 minutes at least. Works for HHG & aliphatic resin glue.


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