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 Post subject: First guitar build
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:11 am 
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Hi all

I am building a Walnut/Alaskan Yellow Cedar OM size guitar. First Build. It will have Imboya headstock, rosette, trim. Macassar Ebony Fretboard and Bridge. Here are some pictures I took last night. Imput would be very appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:31 am 
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Och, cannae see any images, Jim...


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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:08 am 
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I finally figured out the picture posting thing. Here goes....

Would appreciate input. Especially on the top bracing.

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:11 am 
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2 more shots of the neck...

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:07 am 
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neogardguitar wrote:
Would appreciate input. Especially on the top bracing.


Ok then, since you ask... what's up with the extra peak near the bridge plate on one of the lower x-brace legs? Personally I would remove it, then move the ‘usual’ peaks on the braces in a bit (from the rim) and generally trim the tone bars down a bit (especially towards the rim) to make the plate more flexible around the perimeter . I believe it will give you more bass and a ‘richer’ sound. From the way they look I wouldn't shave the 'valleys' behind the x any more... Large bridge plate compared to how I like them. Those are general observations, not knowing anything about the characteristics of your specific pieces of wood or what your tonal goals are.

A fine looking top, nothing out of the ordinary with the bracing (except that extra peak), and it will most likely make a nice sounding guitar. Carry on!

One thing though, are you forgetting an access hole for the truss rod wrench in the upper face brace...?

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:29 am 
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Good start on your 1st guitar.I like the wood and the neck looks very nice.
I would agree with Arnt on the bracing .Just a little more carving and you'll
get it. Have fun putting her together ! :D

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:19 pm 
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Hi Neil: I see some really great work here and think that you are doing fine and will have a great sounding and looking guitar.

I agree with my friend Arnt regarding the double humper X-leg but that is easily hacked off.

In addition, although I think that your bridge shape is cool as hell I am wondering if it will intersect the X-brace on the fat side of the bridge? The bridge is actually one of the most important braces on a guitar and it needs to be long enough to overlay the X-legs, both of them.

Beyond this I like what I see AND I also see some real innovation and artistry for a first guitar. You are going to be very good at this it's clear to see.


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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:46 pm 
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Hey thanks you guys for your help. You are amazing. Will make changes you suggested.

Also Hesh, I have attached a picture of the guitar layout showing the bridge and where it goes across the x-braces. Does that look ok to you?

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:48 pm 
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I'm pretty amazed to hear that is your first build.

Very nice work.

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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:55 am 
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What Arnt said. How tall are the x-braces? If they are more than 9/16" then you are probably OK but on future builds you might want to make the scallop after the intersection more gradual. I would probably move the lower finger brace closer to the other one or shave it down a lot or eliminate it on future builds. Here's a pic of what I'd do.


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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:12 am 
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Yep Neil you have it covered - sorry for the false alarm.

Very nice work! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]


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 Post subject: Re: First guitar build
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:58 am 
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Welcome to the OLF.

How about a real name in your sig? Might make more folks want to respond to your posts.

Looks good. Along with the other good advice given, if it were me, I'd have less of a bridge plate and more of an upper transverse brace. The UTB needs to counteract shear forces that want to push the neck block towards the bridge as well as keep the fretboard extension from diving towards the back.

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