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I used a 55 gallon barrel. You can get them with lids and these clamp things that seal the edges. It works really well. Plus you can get bag liners that fit the can perfectly with a flat bottom. I got a barrel caddy from Grizzly to move it around the shop. It is so bottom heavy that it doesn't want to tip.

The only down side is it is kind of big.

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Brock Poling
Columbus, Ohio
http://www.polingguitars.com

Well, uh, yeah...if you wanna do it "smart" way. I haven't done it that way yet, and I ain't going to start now.

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Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Hmmmm! Apparently there is more than one kind of SMART!

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Waddy

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Sound Clips of most of my guitars

http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/Dylos.htm
Any user reports on the air quality monitor? Probably would be a good investment.

Makes a guy wonder how much static pressure these puppies will draw. Perhaps use for a large vacuum table? Vacuum hold-down and dust collector all in one fixture?

I just received my Mini CV06 today. Very nicely engineered and produced. I'm happy, think it's a great
deal for the price. I intend to put it on a stack like Bruce Dickey (and many others, I apologize to anyone
I don't recognize). I have an older Onida 1 1/2 horse system that I use for big chip producers, but I'm going
to use the Mini-stack for big dust producers until I can afford a bigger ClearVue system.

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Gene

Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason- Mark Twain

Hi again everyone. I wanted to take this opportunity to give you guys a first look at a new product that we will be producing within the next month. We've been busy lately with the Mini CV06. We started out several months ago to make some sort of improvement to the setup of the Mini. There have been several problems with building a cart, it being top heavy etc., so we set out to address those situations. Attached is a picture of what we came up with. It's basically a lid that fits on the Rigid brand shop vac that has a removable blower. We designed the lid to accept the blower and filter from the shop vac and the lid fits right on the drum. The Mini is securely attached and the whole changeover process takes about 5 minutes. We plan on selling the unit at a special introductory price of 199.00 + 40.00 shipping. I would appreciate any comments, thoughts, suggestions etc.

Thanks,

Ed Morgano

Hi Ed,

Blower? You mean like a leaf blower? If one of my neighbors gets a leaf blower, I'm gonna pee in his pool! (Well, you asked for comments.)

I'm still hoping that you guys will create something between the 1400 and the Mini. 1-1/2HP to 2HP, small cyclone, 700 to 800CFM through a 6" pipe. That would probably move plenty of air for the tiny/small home shop. Most of us will always work alone, with only a single tool on and all other blast gates closed. Target price: $500 delivered, with filter. I'll order one today!

Dennis

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Dennis Leahy
Duluth, MN, USA
7th Sense Multimedia

Dennis,
Yes, Rigid makes a shop vac that has a removable blower on it that you can use for a leaf blower. I would suggest that you might want to hold off on the pool thing....Rigid is selling a lot of them....you might be busy. I wish we could deliver what you want. If we could give you 800 CFM (at your machine) with a 1 1/2 - 2 hp machine and deliver it for less than 500.00 I would be a very rich man because I wouldn't be able to make enough of them. You need to realize that the mini only delivers about 125 CFM and that's using the shop vac. Our CV1400 (14" diameter) cyclone only delivers about 1120 CFM and that is with a 5 hp motor and a 16" blower. If we coupled a 12" diameter cyclone to a 12" diameter impeller with a 1 1/2 hp motor, you would probably be looking at 400 - 500 CFM at your machines. Really what you would need is a larger diameter cyclone with the smaller blower to give you more CFM. Trouble is that with the larger cyclone you would spin the air slower and the separation efficiency of the cyclone would drop thus clogging the filters faster and furthermore reducing air flow. With the gas prices what they are, our average UPS shipping cost in the US is well over 120.00. Motor prices have gone up by about 30% since we started. Shipping costs have gone up by the same along with packaging cost, etc. I believe that the only way we are going to accomplish what you want is with new technology that doesn't yet exist. I'll let you know if we come up with something.

Ed

Ed,

Oneida, and Grizzly, and Delta, and Jet...

Well, all the players are offering something that sucks all of the chips and some of the fine dust in for $500 to $700. I don't honestly know if all of them are fudging figures or if some of them are fudging figures, but they now have units that are supposed to stop sub-micron dust.

I have a very strong feeling that you and your company are 100% sincere and honest, and that you are offering the very best dust collection equipment available for small shops. If I was a pro luthier, I'd put it on a credit card, and pay it off in a year, if that's what it took. I'd be willing to bet that for every 1 buyer able to afford your minimum system, there are 10 hobbyists like me that simply cannot cost justify $1400 for dust collection (CV1400 + shipping + filter + shipping, and ductwork.) I have been collecting "spare change" for nearly two years, thinking I would buy a ClearVue cyclone, but I'm not even half way there, and I need to get something.

Honestly, after reading Bill Penz's information, I realize that if you compromise any part of the system, that you cannot hit the goal of collecting every possible sub-micron particle. What I wonder is, if you use your ingenuity and Bill Penz's research, wouldn't your $500 to $700 offering be superior to the other players?

Dennis

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Dennis Leahy
Duluth, MN, USA
7th Sense Multimedia

Put me down for one. I'll buy one as soon as they are available.

Eventually I think it would be cool to see the add-on made from vacuum formed clear material if that's possible.

Dennis,
The key phrase that you used was "some of the dust". After using a 2hp bag type dust collector for about 12 years, I was so impressed with Bill's design that we started making and selling them. Now, the dilemma is: do we want to start producing products that only "half" work so we can make money? I voted no a long time ago. If cost is the only issue, there are several things that you can do to save money. You can build your own cyclone from Bill's plans. In lieu of that, sometimes we get damaged cyclones that are repairable. We do repair them and sell them for 200.00. You can fine a used motor. That is really the biggest ticket item in the system. If any of this is of interest, I would be happy to help any way I can.

Regards,

Ed

Put me down for one. I'll buy one as soon as they are available.

Eventually I think it would be cool to see the add-on made from vacuum formed clear material if that's possible.[/quote]

Sheldon,
We received the material in yesterday and should have units on the website early next week. I agree that we want to produce clear units. We will be working on vacuum formed parts, but that could take a while.

Ed

Thanks Ed. I'm looking forward to it.

Hi again everyone.

I don't what to be a pest but I did want to let everyone know that we do have the RIDGID shop vac conversion lids available now and we are also having a SALE in June. For anyone who has already bought one of our combo units, the lids (which include the Mini CV06 already installed) can be purchased for 179.95.

Regards,

Ed Morgano