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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:00 am 
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Nice saw ,but $1300 is alot of scratch,you can certainly do some creative wood working with it though . Jody


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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:51 am 
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Thanks for that Todd. I thought that it was a very cool tool and pretty innovative too. I would imagine that since it as much a jig as it is a saw the versatility available would give it a fairly steep learning curve.

I do like the "greeness" of it with no electricity used and the quietness too. Very clever.


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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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I wonder what the kerf is ? could it be used for fret slots?Jody


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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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For under $200, my entry-level BT-3000 with the thin kerf Freud Diablo blade can do as much, if not more. (thanks, Mario) The shop vac takes care of the dust...wear ear protectors for the noise. And it even does FB slotting using Shane's blade.

The Bridge City stuff sure is pretty to look at though. Thanks for posting, Todd. I'll cast my vote in the folly category on this one. I'll bet there are a lot of marketing people who would love to have a list of their customers...talk about low-hanging fruit! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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Jody wrote:
I wonder what the kerf is ? could it be used for fret slots?Jody


Jody, the kerf is stated as being .021

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It's a very clever and, it seems, very useful contraption. That said, they've priced it at 3-4X what they should have to capitalize on the idea. Someone'll find a way around the patent and make a killing on these at the proper price.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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The price is listed at an introductory price of $1095.00! Bridge City

Still pretty high IMO! Sure is cool though! Somebody could run one of these things in an apartment, on a job site, like hanging molding..., real easy! What's the maximum depth of cut I wasn't able to see readily? Thanks for posting Todd!

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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Found it! "1-5/8”

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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If it works as well as in the video, that's pretty cool. I've got a buddy with a shop full of Bridge City hand tools, and they're pretty nice. Maybe I can talk him into getting one to see if it works.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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A couple Japanese saws, one with 'western' dovetail bar, will do just as good for under $100.00 and a little skill. Japanese saws are too awsome, and blades are cheap, dovetail blade is $25.00...be careful they sharp... beehive

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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I think Todd nailed the group of folks that might be interested in this tool when he said "For those with deep paranoia regarding tablesaws."

I am indeed paranoid about table saws but would like one. I also think a little paranoia and a lot of respect is a healthy thing to have for folks like me with no training in the proper use of table saws. The alternative is potentially unthinkable...........


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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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Table saws deserve respect for sure, but before I laid out $1,000.00 for the jointmaker pro , I would want to try one first , there are many tools being sold today that hardly, if at all, live up to the hype and expectations .This tool may do some of the jobs a table saw does , but long rips, or some other jobs maybe an issue . Jody


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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:12 pm 
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That's a really cool idea, but in my book it's real value is more in the neighborhood of $5-600. It has some obvious limitations, but if you're doing anything that is small scale, it's a fantastic little tool. Just way to rich for my blood. It looks like a case of something that was really well designed but perhaps overly so considering the limited number of applications for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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This one has got me thinking…I just may have to roll my own.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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It does seem like it would be easy enough to make some derivative of it, doesn't it?
For a lot less I might add. This would probably rock for rosette tiles.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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Everything I saw in the video was cut with one swipe. What happens when you try the same cut with some of our hardwoods? Does it jam and put a small kink in the blade?

I'm quite skeptical of it's real world usage. Sure it'll work cutting softwoods and limited depth of cuts. Just not so sure about anything else. Like all marketing video's, they very cleverly steer clear of it's limitations. However, in the $200 - $300 price range and it would be worth considering.

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Allen, you may be right on target with your price consideration. I think this is way overpriced for what it does. Their assumption that people will pay for all their engineering and setup work to manufacturer it is probably ill-placed. Their strategy should have been to sell 10,000 of them rather than 1000 of them to make back those costs. I know it seems crazy, but they priced it way too high intentionally, and my guess is they want to recover those costs more quickly. It's short-term thinking, rather than long term thinking.
It reminds me of a music store near me. They try to sell instruments for more money than they should. The motto for them is "sell less for more". I think that stopped working a few decades ago. Small wonder that they have to sell things like grandfather clocks too. Oh wait....they're finally out of business. Nevermind....bad example. Or just maybe....a very good one.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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You could just as easily trim your finger on that thing....it just wont take the whole thing off, and throw things back when they get pinched.

Any blade, any time, but that thing looks like a band-aid machine with no hand holds, you use your hands right to the saw blade.


$3-400 maybe. Make it in England they can do it for cheaper.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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I think it looks slick. Not a replacement for a table saw, but much more pleasant. As for safety, with a .021" clean Japanese kerf, you could reattach a digit with superglue and save. Put it that way and $1300 is a bargain.

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 Post subject: Re: Jointmaker Pro
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A clean cut is better than a jagged cut. Its much easer to suture the muscle and nerves and you’ll have a better chance of getting some feeling back.

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