Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:26 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be Nice to our new friends! Remember, everybody starts somewhere!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:05 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:47 am
Posts: 192
First name: Adam
Last Name: Yavner
City: Wylie
State: TX
Zip/Postal Code: 75098
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
So, the Stewmac instructions for the 14 fret say to line up the end of the fretboard with the break line at the head, then draw a line 3/16th from that on the peghead face to line up the veneer with (giving a space for the nut).

not sure that made alot of sense, i am wondering now if it was a typo, as I see now that my 14th fret slot does not line up with the heel face (where the body joins). It looks really good besides that so not sure if I should start over (i'd have to buy a new veneer).

is it a problem, besides aesthetically, if the 14th fret is about 1/4" north of the body join, as long as I get the bridge set correctly to the scale? i have the stewmac saddlematic, so pretty sure I can get the bridge and saddle placed correctly.. just hoping i didn't make a fatal error.

What do y'all think?

adam

_________________
"Everyone wants to BE something, but nobody wants to BECOME something" - William Cumpiano


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:25 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:42 pm
Posts: 2360
Location: Windsor Ontario Canada
First name: Fred
Last Name: Tellier
City: Windsor
State: Ontario
Zip/Postal Code: N8T2C6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I would redo the veneer, the 1/4 inch affects a lot of things on the top. You may be able to salvage it if you do not over heat it when removing. Correcting mistakes is a skill we all learn quickly, but not making them takes longer.

Fred

_________________
Fred Tellier
http://www.fetellierguitars.com
Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/FE-Tellier-Guitars/163451547003866


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:28 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:47 am
Posts: 192
First name: Adam
Last Name: Yavner
City: Wylie
State: TX
Zip/Postal Code: 75098
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Yeah... .kinda what I was thinking... bummer.. oh well... another mistake I won't make in the future!

_________________
"Everyone wants to BE something, but nobody wants to BECOME something" - William Cumpiano


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:47 am
Posts: 192
First name: Adam
Last Name: Yavner
City: Wylie
State: TX
Zip/Postal Code: 75098
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Update -

OK, so here's how its going, I think I will be able to salvage this just fine. I decided to leave the veneer in place, as its already contoured to the headstock. Instead, i got out the Wagner heat gun and a couple of scraper blades and verrrrry slowly peeled off the fretboard. Scraped the glue off both surfaces and I think it will go back on rather nicely.

Meanwhile at the headstock end, I took a strip of ebony about the right width and glued it in place effectively creating a 1/4" extension for the veneer in the right direction. When I plane/sand it down, it should be pretty much invisible - the overall effect will be like a Strat where the nut is cut into a channel in the fretboard and you have ebony on both sides before transitioning into the headstock... in other words, its a crazy, million-to-one shot, but It Just Might Work [:Y:]

I'll make sure the 14th fret slot lines up with the face of the heel at the body join, and *hopefully* problem solved. I'll post some pics later, its going to take me another day to get this all together and overnight to glue.

Glad I decided to do this - the more I thought about it, the more I realized, even if i maintain the proper scale length, moving the bridge up that 1/4" would probably have ended up putting my bridge pin holes dangerously close to a brace, or off the backing plate altogether. NOT good!

thanks again,

adam

_________________
"Everyone wants to BE something, but nobody wants to BECOME something" - William Cumpiano


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:12 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:10 pm
Posts: 2764
First name: Tom
Last Name: West
State: Nova Scotia
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
You might have had a problem at the sound hole also. Sounds like you may have made a reasonably good save.

_________________
A person who has never made a mistake has never made anything!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:58 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:47 am
Posts: 192
First name: Adam
Last Name: Yavner
City: Wylie
State: TX
Zip/Postal Code: 75098
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
westca wrote:
You might have had a problem at the sound hole also. Sounds like you may have made a reasonably good save.


Well.... luckily I left that end of the FB full length until I get closer, to avoid just that kind of thing!

Anyway, got the fretboard back on and the 14th fret slot seems to line up OK now (whew). In the process of removing and regluing, the neck developed a bit of a dip (which I started another thread on in the main board). Got all the glue cleaned up and everything all sanded back down and will probably let it settle for a couple of days.

I was able to use the trussrod to counter the dip, so once I fret it, it should come back up even more and I might even be able to go back a bit on the trussrod.

All in all, many lessons learned on this one, not the least of which being, regardless of where the directions tell you to make lines etc, it doesn't hurt to do a reality check and make sure the darn thing is going to sit where it needs to!!

_________________
"Everyone wants to BE something, but nobody wants to BECOME something" - William Cumpiano


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com