Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:06 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:35 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 am
Posts: 3152
Location: Canada
Ya know how when some things happen you sometimes start to think about the "what ifs"? Well I was just milling some birch, light passes, .030 stepover, using the Amana insert bit, a 1" ballnose. I have used this bit for probably more than a dozen radius dishes and it works GREAT (thanks again Nelson!). Well, I was working a few feet away from the CNC (I means like 3 feet or so), then all of a sudden all of the sounds changed! This was the result:

Attachment:
Broken Cutter.jpg


I am not sure what happened but probably one of the set screws for the inserts came loose, allowing the bit to drop and dig in and then it broke, taking the other insert with it. I was doing passes at 225 ipm and 18,000 rpm. I found these pieces (bits of both inserts) and the rest may be in the vacuum or embedded somewhere in the shop. Then it hit me (not literally, thankfully!), shards of broken carbide flying around a 330 sq ft shop from a shaft spinning at 18,000 rpm. Nothing about that sounds fun! So I will be checking and tightening the set screws on a very regular basis. I may also make a bit of a screen that hinges up on the front of the machine just to deflect any further possible flying objects away from the rest of the work area. Anyone else have any issues with insert bits?

Shane


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:20 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:53 am
Posts: 1584
Location: PA, United States
Yikes! I get it... Grateful you weren't hurt. Coulda be serious.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:24 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 1644
Location: United States
City: Duluth
State: MN
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Wow, that was close! Will 1/4" polycarbonate stop a chunk of carbide shrapnel?

Dennis

_________________
Dennis Leahy
Duluth, MN, USA
7th Sense Multimedia


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:36 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:19 am
Posts: 1534
Location: United States
First name: Nelson
Last Name: Palen
Sure puts a lot of value on safety glasses.
(Maybe a bullet proof vest also)
Nelson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:47 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:34 pm
Posts: 2047
First name: Stuart
Last Name: Gort
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Hmmm......let's see.

1" diameter x 18000 rpm = 56548 inches per minute = 942 inches per second = 78 feet per second = less than 1/10th the speed of a good pellet gun.

A blunt edge wouldn't break the skin but a sharp piece might if it had a little heft to it.

Not TOO dangerous but wear your safety glasses. ;)

_________________
I read Emerson on the can. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...true...but a consistent reading of Emerson has its uses nevertheless.

StuMusic


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:49 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:34 pm
Posts: 2047
First name: Stuart
Last Name: Gort
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Dennis Leahy wrote:
Wow, that was close! Will 1/4" polycarbonate stop a chunk of carbide shrapnel?

Dennis


Depends on the weight ..... but ya..... figure on it.

_________________
I read Emerson on the can. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...true...but a consistent reading of Emerson has its uses nevertheless.

StuMusic


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:37 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 am
Posts: 3152
Location: Canada
Thanks for the calculations Stuart, now I lost sleep over nothing! Although, even if permanent damage was not probable, I am sure that it would still hurt like heck! Therefore I would much rather keep them things where they are supposed to be and doing what they are supposed to be doin'!

Shane

_________________
Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Holy CR@P Batman!!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:27 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 am
Posts: 2351
Location: Canada
First name: Bob
Last Name: Garrish
City: Toronto
State: Ontario
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
1/4" of lexan will stop them just fine. Much larger things have bounced off the windows of the Fadal :)

_________________
Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com