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Worked fine here, too, but, ummm, isn't the point of a trailer video to give the viewers an idea of what's in the video? I got nothing, not a hint of what and how you teach, out of this.

Just an observation....

If you got nothing of what I teach out if it, well then I don't know what to
say....seemed pretty obvious to me.

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John Mayes
http://www.mayesluthier.com

Well, going into it knowing that it was about John's neck joint and actually reading the captions, I thought it was pretty obvious also.

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Scott Thompson
Port Townsend,WA

"In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room"
-Billy Bragg

I'm talking of the teaching -style-. We all know what you're teaching(setting a neck), what would make it valuable or not is the approach you take, but the trailer doesn't seem to show that. Everyone learns differently(actually, we all learn in one of 3 ways), and when researching a learning method, we all seek a teacher that teaches in a manner that is clear to us.

Kind of like how so many love the Cumpiano book, yet it's a head scratcher to me, as most of it seems backwards to me, today, as well as when I first read it.

Same with music teaching videos; some love, say, Happy Traum's methods, others understand Mel Bay's, while others can only make sense of Steve Kaufman's approach.

Not condemning your videos at all; just saying that the trailers don't tell us what your approach is, so there's really no point in them. The video lessons will be very helpful for some, and of little help to others; the trailer should help a person decide if it will help them or not, same as a movie trailer helps us decide if we want to go see it or not.Mario38669.7657638889

Thanks for the clarification.

I don't know how I would go about showing my teaching style on a 40
second clip. That is one reason I always offer a money back garuntee. If
you get it and it helps you none then you send it back and you get your
money back....I've never had anyone not get something useful out of the
videos....at least not that they have told me.

But for teaching style I thought it would rather be self evident.. I show it, I
talk about it, and I perform it all on video. It's laid back, and aimed at all
levels... If I could figure out how to convey all of that, plus what the video
is about in 30-45 seconds that would be great. As always I'm open to
suggestions!

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John Mayes
http://www.mayesluthier.com

[QUOTE=Mario]The video lessons will be very helpful for some, and of little help to others; the trailer should help a person decide if it will help them or not, same as a movie trailer helps us decide if we want to go see it or not.[/QUOTE]

This would be true if there were a lot of instructional material available that shows hands on instruction in detail. But unlike the numerous movies that come out each week, there just is not that much guitar building instruction on video, and very little of it current. Even if there were, I doubt they would be of more use that John's great videos. One look at that double mortise neck joint had me ready to order!

Thanks again John for helping me and so many others.

Jeff

I've seen the joint in the flesh at John's place...man, if he scratched his instructions in a piece of burned toast and sent it to me it'd be valuable!    Can't miss with the price/quality of his DVD's and I can't wait for mine to arrive!

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Thanks for the nice words fellas. I really enjoy being a part of yall's
journey in lutherie. I've just now got to where I'm breaking even with all
the equipment, and software I've had to buy to make the videos (after the
first three which I borrowed a camera, and did the videos on a cheap
program). But all that aside I'd do it again, cause of the wonderful people
I've helped a little, and got to be a part of their lives, and guitars. Sounds
sappy, but it's true.

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John Mayes
http://www.mayesluthier.com

I haven't seen John's newest DVD yet, but I have seen all of the others, I think these are an incredible series of DVD's, what I like about them is you don't get a sanitised version of a process, but essentially a film of John performing his process as he would normally with some well thought out commentry.

As someone who has essentially learned what I know from books, trial and error, and snippets of information given to me by some very helpful people, members of the OLF included, it is of great benifit just to watch somone of Johns pedigree who trained at a great maker, and has then taken those processes and refined them, work as I see things he does and think why didn't I think of that.

One of the things that has always impressed me when I have had the oppurtunity to talk with the people I consider to be great builders, is they all share certain qualities, a lust for knowledge and the ability to question all of their processes to look for improvement.

John

If you made a pot full of money from your DVDs I for one would be very pleased for you, as your DVD's have done a great deal to improve the skill levels of a great many builders RussellR38670.1673842593

John, don't think about breaking even now. I'm sure your dvd's will be sold for a long, long time. I agree with Russell, and as one who is learning on his own without any hands on instruction, seeing it done is a great improvement over the books alone.   

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Don Atwood
Arlington, VA

John how long were you at Panteon?

[QUOTE=davidO] John how long were you at Panteon?[/QUOTE]

For only apx 8-9 months I believe.

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John Mayes
http://www.mayesluthier.com

John,
Keep up the Great work. I for one, am a great proponant (sp)
of your videos. I'm building a guitar that so far, has turned out much better than my other attempys, and I have all the people here on this forum to thank. And I especially thank you for the DVD's. They bring to my home, most of the ideas that are spoken of here.
Thank you, John.
I hope you sell a million of them too!