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Seen this clip and it reminded me a little bit of the shape of the wishbone guitars you've built. I enjoyed the clip and thought I would share it.........

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Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo, Adaboy,

thank you for posting this. Your timeing is impeccable seein how me just started to build a six string travel guitar very similar to this. Now I even have an idea of how it gonna sound.

Thanj you,much appreciated



Padma

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That was great !

I am prolly gonna chap some people off here , I dont mean to , just a lil point to be made.

That was done 130 yrs ago with basic scrap wood , and no chaldini patterns , no deflection testing , no accepted norms as the "onlyway" a decent sounding guitar can be made .

I am not against all those methods , so dont think im saying dont ! The point is , a good sounding unit can be made without . We can get stuck in the "accepted norm" and then lose the ability to experiment .

Maybe every once and a while we should all get old scrap wood , a fence post and "play" a bit and see what happens !

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Just a quick comment... Thing is from the very first moment someone decided they wanted to improve the tone of an instrument they have used a scientific approach - we may misguidedly call the 'old fashioned' non tool supported techniques the 'art' in the build, but the fact is they just used different tools - namely ears and hands - now maybe not as accurate, or some may say they are better, but tools none the less. They just tapped and listened to conduct their experiements and recorded as much detail as they could - Sure we now have additioanl tools to do the same thing and perhaps more accurately and without the need to tune the ear, but the principle IMHO is the same. Personnally, as a Scientist, its in my nature to want to use the most acurate tools available, but I want to learn how to use the ones I have first namely the ears!

Just a quick comment... Thing is from the very first moment someone decided they wanted to improve the tone of an instrument they have used a scientific approach - we may misguidedly call the 'old fashioned' non tool supported techniques the 'art' in the build, but the fact is they just used different tools - namely ears and hands - now maybe not as accurate, or some may say they are better, but tools none the less. They just tapped and listened to conduct their experiements and recorded as much detail as they could - Sure we now have additioanl tools to do the same thing and perhaps more accurately and without the need to tune the ear, but the principle IMHO is the same. Personnally, as a Scientist, its in my nature to want to use the most acurate tools available, but I want to learn how to use the ones I have first namely the ears!

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I am planning on building a parlor one day for my son who is 3 and a half currently. I am certainly not going to use the best wood available. In fact, I was considering using practice sides from LMI or StewMac to keep the costs down. And, since he will probably mess it up, I wont be too upset if he scratches up some "cheap" wood. My plan is to use black lacquer on the back and sides to cover up the fact that they do not match and leave the top natural wood. I have read about "patch work" guitars before and how surprisingly nice they sound, so I think this is a good way to give him a quality guitar, made by dad, without spending his college money.
Traditionalists would have small to medium strokes thinking about using mismatched sides, but whatever works, right?

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Well Peter, me can only speak for me, myself and I, Duh Padma which is what that quote is, me sharing me take on what me do wit me life energy.

I accord you the privilege to decided if your life energies are being wasted building repros.
No one can decide that for you, especially an old burned out hippy like Duh Padma.

Thank you for inquiring as to my perspective.
Do what thou wilt...
If it feels good, then do it.
You don't need my approval or disapproval to justify your brand of insanity and please, don't be confusing yours with mine.
The bottom line is...
you gonna do what you gonna do anyways.
So the only advise you get from me is ...enjoy doing it even it that includes building Selmar/Maccaferri repros...


Blessings
Padma

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Well said, Padma.

From another viewpoint, it would be a waste of them old dead luthiers' nightmare resolutions if everyone just invented their own nightmare to try and solve... Lots of people out there in the world who would love to own an instrument from so-and-so, but so-and-so can only make so many before his time is up. Thus, reproductions are a fine and honorable use of one's energy, even from a logical standpoint, which isn't necessary since this is all about gut feeling anyway.

And look at the violin world... not very often you see wild new ideas there. And that makes life mucho easier on the players, since it's so much about muscle memory.

Then there are those who feel trapped in a soundbox if all we can do is build the same thing over and over, especially if it's someone else's thing. Padma's way ahead of me there. I'm rather fond of the traditional guitar look and sound, so I'm not changing things up too much. Plus being a noob, it's great for learning, since there's lots of knowledge available on them. But I still gotta mix up the woods, or the shape, or the bracing, or at the very least my little doodles made of wood and shell snippets that I put all over the place. But who knows, maybe I'll come up with some bright new idea here in 2 or 20 years and forget about tradition. Or maybe I'll be building violins.

Bottom line is, if you're having fun, you're doing it right.

Yes Tony me would have to agree here by quoting Duh Padma who has often said....
"if it gets the pig clean ~ use it"

blessings
Padma

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Why do I have this cosmic feeling that Jimmy Driftwood and the Padma are blood relatives?

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That's great, thanks for posting. I like the "Freight Train" picking near the end. This Gal does a great cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vLXQh3qChM

Well JJ ,

thats interesting cuz me the black sheep of the family(ya go figure) but now if you were to be looking at me brother Vic and Driftwood out of the same eyeball, you would swear you seeing doubles...so you know...maybe.


blessings

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Agreed , my point maybe not explained well was that we "occasionaly" need to step out of the norm and maybe by doing so we will solve another nightmare that needs solving , I am not against scientific aproach , By all means it works . However everyonce and a while , do it like was shown above , keeps our "art /talent" if you will fresh .
Besides we might just have fun doing so

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/