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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:54 pm 
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Beautiful work. I like that vacuum press. Can you tell me what kind of blade you put in your scroll saw for cutting out the cavity cover?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:02 pm 
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Ya had me confused there for a bit.
Then I read you used a veneer over the spruce.
Very interesting.
I see you are going with your grain matched cavity cover.
So that's how ya do it!!
That veneer is awesome, looks alive with movement.
I would have kept that knot in the body wood on the back though.....


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Sweet!
Whats the deal with the rocks on the top after it came out of the vacuum ?

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Nice Rocks. Guitar rocks too. [:Y:]

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:36 am 
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It must be nice to be young,
and still see so well, Chris.
Thanks for posting your method here, F.
I like the washer scribe trick!
Keep us informed on the magnet part of it.
What kind of magnets do ya use?
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They come in a wide variety of sizes.

Here are some that are 1/4" x 1/16"
http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Magnets-E ... 591&sr=8-2

And 1/8" x 1/16"
http://www.amazon.com/MAGCREDIBLE%C2%AE ... y_hi_img_b

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Aweshum!

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Filippo you show some very nice methods here. Thanks for sharing. [:Y:]

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:09 am 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Regarding the top carve:

The top clocks in around 0.150" give or take 20 thou. I'm not trying to make the top super resonant. I carve until I go from having a potato chip sound when I tap the top, to where I start getting a higher resonant sustain. Others are likely to have far more informed opinions on this from an electric perspective (as I'm a classical and steel string guy, more so). My thinking is as follows:
1) I want some resonance that provides some sustain and overtone in the guitar - this would contribute to the guitar's tonal character.
2) I do not want so much resonance that I begin to cause feedback issues.
3) the thinner the carve the greater resonance at lower frequencies, I believe.

Given this is a semi-hollow, I suspect #2 is unlikely to be a major issue. But that is my thinking for the top. Of course anyone has a differing opinion I would love to hear a counter argument!

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God! Absolutely beautiful!


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What's that white thing on Todds bench that looks like a robot?
Enquiring minds want to know!


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Sweet build so far Filippo! Can't wait to see it finished!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:25 pm 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Hope this is helpful. If anyone has questions or observations, please feel free to chime in.


I have one, Filippo. Where did you find the spruce for the top? What grade? Etc.


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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Thanks, Bob. Just trying to pass along the story in hopes that it helps others like it helped me when I was figuring this stuff out (and I'm still figuring most of it out!) Credit where credit it due, the techniques for doing the top were all taught to me by Chris Verhoeven. His videos also have some pretty practical advise and show certain ways of doing things.

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Filippo


Amen to that brother - Chris has helped me out with different things along the way too!

Still watching this build on the sidelines here - really nice looking and gettin' better by the minute!

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verhoevenc wrote:
The folks at Fraser Valley Maple. Call them up and they give amazing deals on lower grade (perfect for electric semi-hollows and full-hollow hybrids). They are great boards, nothing like knots or pitch pockets. Just looser grain than others and the like. Sitka and Engelmann.
Chris

Chris, do you have a link for that? Is this the place?

http://fine-woods.com/index.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:39 pm 
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It took me a while to figure out your fretbord taper jig.
Very good idea!


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Hi Filippo!
I seem to be attracted to ALL the jigs I have seen you post and am actually putting together my fret slot saw jig(Sorry to go off topic slightly) for my table saw and I was curious as to what you are using for your miter slot rails on the jig shown above? I have some scrap mahogany flooring that is one of the most stable woods I have had in my possession in the journey of acquired woods over the last year and was thinking of using that.

I love what you just posted - I made the neck pocket jig after yours and used mostly exotic woods (That were mostly donated to me) because I couldn't afford birch plywood/ locally purchased maple, etc. LOL

You can spot black & white ebony, padauk and bloodwood, mahogany, etc. on the jig I made - hehehe

I finally purchased some birch plywood a couple months back :D

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I like you jigs Fillipo. I would build one like this for myself except I don't have a table saw. I am currently shaping my fretboards using a template on my router table.

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Jim_H wrote:
I like you jigs Fillipo. I would build one like this for myself except I don't have a table saw. I am currently shaping my fretboards using a template on my router table.


Another MacGuyver! AWESOME!
Make what ya can with what ya got(Well deserved pride in what u make)... when ya finally get the tool you have been craving for, life becomes simply delicious.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:28 am 
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Your sled is far more flexible. My router method requires a different template for each fretboard shape, and if I want to account for bindings, then that is another (set of) template(s).

Fortunately I'm only building a couple of guitars a year, and the one template I have is working for me for now.

The template I'm using also doubles for drilling locating dowels (it has two 1/8" id drill bushings). It's actually just a CNC'd fretboard I bought from John Watkins when he was selling guitar stuff online. It was a 'second'. I sanded the radius off of it and put the drill bushings in. It serves multiple purposes.

You can't see it, but the bit is a bearing guided pattern bit. The fretboard is an LMI product, pre-slotted and radiused to 16'. I lined up the centerline and attached it with double sided tape. I cut it close on the bandsaw and then zip the rest off with the router.
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One of these days I'll make room in the shop for a tablesaw and work up a jig similar to yours.

Sorry to hijack your thread. Back to your regularly scheduled program =)

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Schweet!

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Hey Philippo,

Let us know how that Katalox polishes. And describe the surface if you would. Looks like it might have large pores. Not that it matters much but I'm curious.

Seems like I read about that wood on a wood supplier website somewhere and it sounded interesting. I use cocobolo but I kind of like that even color and would like a browner choice for certain combinations.

Also saw some "brown ebony" that looked pretty homogenous and rock hard...it was like $10 a board foot and the guy had a ton if it. The color was a yuck lightish brown but I wondered if it could be dyed black enough to create a decent faux ebony.

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Cool build and great documentation Filippo. Thanks for that!
I am really digging your fret board binding. If you had not said anything, I would have thought it was a CNC'd board with faux binding. Beautiful work so far. Can't wait to see how it finishes up!

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I'm with ya on the soundhole binding.
Nice work!


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