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Hi everyone -

I started tackling my first mandolin - at first I was planning a flattop - but after looking around I think I want to start with a carved top (considering I already make flat top guitars).
I joined some wood I got from International Violin - and I picked up a nice piece of poplar as well to make a 1 piece back.
I made a template based off plans on the internet, and modified the shape of an F5 to suit my tastes. I made it more Les Paulish/Archtop guitar with a cutaway look. I am using the arching patterns for a Loar F5 and the Siminoff book for the building procedure.

Today I setup my drill press planer to make the topo map on my sound board - and the ROS to even the planes - it's looking good and I am excited to take this project on, even though it is distracting me from finishing the binding channels my latest classical.

Camera phone pics -

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

Looks Like a Great Start To Me !

Make a pic thread of it all the way through !

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The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
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Wud - you asked for it ! Sometimes I think you are the only one that see's me threads, and I sincerely thank you for it ! here's a couple of more shots after profiling the top

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

I like I like !! Keep going , It may get lonely in this subforum , but hey we have beer ! LOL

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

Did someone say beer! I'm watching too John. Keep it coming. If I have time this winter I'm going to do an "F" so I look forward to see how you make out. I've done an "A" and was really happy with the outcome. Looks like you're off to a great start.

Cheers,
Danny

I'm watching, too. I like the way you've simplified the upper bout / neck block area of the box. At the same time, you've retained some traditional features. That's cool, and it's what I've tried to do, too. I've got one in process, but it'll be on hold until fall or winter when the humidity in my shop goes lower. Press on!

Patrick

I Les Paul'ed it - I like how the carved arch top guitars look - so I tried to emulate that - I have seen a few mandos around the web like this - so I figured it was ok to cut out the scroll - I am having a hard time also understanding why there are so many top builders building exactly the F5 like Loar did. I guess it is the same as having so many Strat style electrics out there.

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

Because there is an underlying attitude in the Mandolin community that is " If it dont look like an "F" it aint a real Mando " .

Build what YOU like !

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

So I guess I will call this my "FU" shape ....

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

Sounds Goood to Me !!

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

OK here are more pics - I drilled out the inside and today and tomorrow I will work on carving that out -

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

John, looking good. I've never built a mandolin, I'm just starting to finish my third guitar, but would love to try it when I feel comfortable my skill level is up to it. I've been wanting to stop by International since I found out about it a year or so ago. Do they stock much in the way of guitar parts, or is it mostly violin family stuff?

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Kyle

International Violin is close to us -

they have fretboard blanks - rosewood and ebony, some preslotted (from Stew Mac) - but the prices are very good.
Tools - chisels and smallplanes (Ibex) purf cutters
Rosettes and purfling (Martin styles) I know it comes from StewMac - but their prices are good and not marked up over Stew Mac prices.
premade bridges, tuning machines for guitar and mandlo - mando bits and pieces -

Tonewoods they have a prettty good selection of Euro spruce both for tops and braces

the service is good -

check the website - they stock what they show on the web. For backs and sides, I go to Linithicum, World of Hardwoods.

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

Thanks John, I'll have to check out World of Hardwoods also.

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Kyle

Hi everyone - this past weekends and today's activity -

Made a side/body mold
Bent my sides and placed in mold.

Next up body blocks, finish final sanding carving of top and backs - then attach.
Work on the neck - already cut out - I think I missed pictures of it - but I will post again shortly -

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

ok been busy with other things lately - but in the past couple of days I made some progress -

F-holes marked out, patched with fine linen, and cut on the scroll saw.

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

I'm watching too, John. Just recently started on guitars due to my retirement, but started a mando years ago, but gave up when trying to bend the sides. Really hadn't done my homework. I started carving the top and back, and I still have the plates. As soon as I finish the Classical I'm working on, think I'll give the mando another try, since I finally learned how to bend some sides. Anyway, John, just wanted you to know I appreciate the thread. Keep up the good work.

If you can bend sides for the classical - then the mando side should be a breeze. Also for the classical, I never worked with a mold. Making the mold was very easy for the mando, and then bending the sides and slapping them in the mold while still warm and moist allowed them to dry to the precise shape, so the bending does not have to be perfectly exact as when the sides dry they will conform to the mold shape.

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

I m on my first mandolin too. Since I just got into luthierie I decided to go with a kit from stewmac.
Do you have any advise I could use

Since you have a kit - I guess everything has been well planned first.
I am working out of the Siminoff book and Grahman Macdonald's book - so my planning is not that great.

I should have started like I did with my classical build (from the Cumpiano book) where everything was drawn out first - I find that both these books do not include precise dimensions, unlike Cumpiano - who lays out all the dimensions as he walks you through drawing plans.


So if you can - plan everything out and know every dimension of all the pieces.

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

Looking good John !

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

a little more progress during the holidays !

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It's this new idea from recent decades that everyone gets a participation award. - MUX

I like what I see , Never enough time is there .

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The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/

Looking good, keep the updates comming. Slow and steady wins the race. I like the upper bout shape.

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Looks good John. I also am loving the shape. I look forward to seeing more pics.

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Kyle