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I am putting new binding on a 50"s Epiphone(natural finish) since the old shrunk bad. I plan to build lacquer up on the binding alone with a fine brush after as I do not want to spray the whole guitar. Tedious but I think better.

Question - how do I stop the glue from going on the body as it might squeeze out when I pull it tight with tape. I have the vinyl glue made for binding. Can I put vaseline where the biding meets the finish so the glue does not stick?? Other ideas?
Also, Frank Ford says in his site that Vinyl ruins finishes - so why use Vinyl glue as Luthier's MErchantile Sells?

Thanks

I rebound a vintage D35 with new binding on the back. I used CA and it worked fine. Then with a razor blade, handheld, I trimmed the celluloid down to fit the guitar.

I'd pass on the vaseline.

Adding layers of lacquer by brush is bound to be tedious. You need an aged toner in it probably, this is a tough call.

Another thing Frank said is that nitrocellulose lacquer is easier to touch up, so that's working in your favor. I'll bet you do a nice job with it. Good luck.

If you can clean the slot well enough, EVA (ethylene vinyl acetate) glue or
fish glue are prime choices. Neither of them will react with the finish, and
both can be cleaned up with water before they are cured. Fish glue still
cleans well with water after curing, and EVA cleans up with alcohol when
dry.

Collings uses Roo Glue EVA on thier binding, and both of these are known
for thier excellent bond for porous to non-porous surfaces.

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I've heard good things on the Roo Aussie Glue. Good prices too.

SO - you let it set for -- a day? less? then even if there is some glue on teh top ( say under the masking tape) just alcohol, correct? Thanks

I would let it set for at least overnight, and of course 24 hours wouldn't
hurt, but is probably a little more than necessary. Both of these adhesives
work by evaporative curing, and since they will only have one surface to
evaporate through it adds more time than a wood/wood joint. Plus that
surface is probably still partially sealed from previous adhesives, and
finished on the surface, so expect a longer than average curing time.

And yes, denatured alcohol cleans it up fine after curing, although it does
take quite a bit of rubbing. Make sure there is no shellac on any jobs you
plan to use EVA on.David Collins38739.6571527778

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What is the source for Roo EVA? I thought EVA was hot melt; How do liquid
EVA's compare to PVA's?

Vinyl itself is harmless to lacquer, BTW. It's the plasticisers in soft vinyl that
are deadly.Howard Klepper38740.1278703704

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Roo Clear
Best glue for nonporous material (ie, wood to melamine). Clear dry for excellent finish on melamine of laminate. The most popular Roo glue.

1 Gallon - $17.95

$16.95

I'm seeing Roo Clear all over now in the US, recently though it was a tough find. Here is a link in Oregon.

I did a quick Google and found "rooglue.com"

Here is the link

Please tell me this aint made out of Kangaroo hide

LanceK38740.33875

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Road Kill.

Lance, it's ok, I checked the site and the product does not contain any kangeroo....which is a good thing really or else I would be hopping mad [QUOTE=LanceK]

Please tell me this aint made out of Kangaroo hide

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Don't kill no kangeroo please, there ain't much around here, only bears hop mad!

Aussies are harvisting Reds again these days I heard. The inviros will probably shune me now but the best and softest leather jacket I ever owned was Red Roo.

anyone who knows will tell you that the roos, both reds and greys, are in pleague proportions, not endangered.

it's the small marsupials which are endangered, e.g. wallaroos, potoroos, bilbies, etc., mainly due to introduced predators such as foxes and feral dogs and cats, as well as habitat destruction and competition from introduced, species such as rabbits and feral pigs.

PITA, psst Michael lives in Odessa!

"We'll save Australia
Don't want to hurt no kangaroo."

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[QUOTE=Dickey] PITA, psst Michael lives in Odessa![/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=crazymanmichael] anyone who knows will tell you that the roos, both reds and greys, are in pleague proportions, not endangered. [/QUOTE]

Michael is absolutely correct, us Anglo Saxons arrived here just over 200 years ago, and as is our way (we never can just fit in?) immediately set about changing the environment to suit our needs as opposed to the course taken by the indigenous peoples of this country who changed their needs to suit their environment.

Anyhow we got busy clearing the land to plant our grain crops (Kang- a- roo: Preferred Environment; open grassy plains)and building dams and sinking artesian bores all over the desert for our water supply (Kang-a-roo: Habits; known to gather in large numbers at water sources to breed) and before you knew it, the bloody things were jump'in around all over the place. (Kang-a-roo: Breeding Cycle; The Kangaroo is one of if not the only animal known to man that can control it's own period of gestation. During a drought or periods of hardship, a female kangaroo can suspend giving birth to an embryo within the womb for a period of up to seven years. In ideal conditions, the female kangaroo quite regularly has an embryo in womb, yet another slightly older but still hairless offspring weening upon one of several nipples in the pouch and yet another older offspring seeking protection and still feeding from within the pouch)

So, contrary to those who believe that harvesting the roo is an environmental disaster, I maintain that the environmental disaster is indeed us Anglo Saxons who, as luck would have it also some times play and make guitars, which is a very good thing otherwise I could never have posted this information

Cheers all Kim.

Thanks for sharing this Kim!
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