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Anybody has a phone # or email address for this company? I'm looking for
vintage looking celluloid material.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Here you go Laurent...


Deep River Vintage ,26 Spring St., Deep River, CT 06417 860-526-5315 Vintage style
tortoise celluloid for Martin pickguards.

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I'd like to be able to prove, just for once, that money wouldn't make me happy...

Merci Alain, this is the # I tried before and it's no longer in service. Any other
contact info guys?

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Laurent,

Here's an email address.

csotcek@gowebway.com

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now known around here as Pat Foster
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http://www.patfosterguitars.com

Thanks Pat, tried that too from the luthier supplies list Sylvan Wells put out.
Got a "unvalid/unknown email address" reply.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Henry retired about 2 years ago.

oh… Any other sources for celluloid m aterial?

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Laurent-

Try John Greven's TorTis webpage. I'm not sure if this is what you are after but it's the only thing I know of like this. I'm not sure if he sells in sheet form or not. Give him a call, he is usually busy but is very nice if you can get ahold of him. His number is (503) 233-8525 and his email is grevenguitars@msn.com.

Good Luck-

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John Lewis
Wannabe builder owned by 2 crazy dachshunds

tortise and celuloid are 2 different products.

Yeah, I like Tortis very much and use it regularly, but I'm looking for
celluloid sheets. Like '50 or '60 style with the yellow, red and black thing.
Any idea?

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Have you tried LMI ?

Is this what you are after ?

LMI Sheets

Yes, the LMI sheets are not real celluloid. At least the good looking ones
(non pastrami looking…). The Tor-tis looking sheets are transparent sheets
with a print on one side, a bit like the cheezy guards Martin uses, but better
looking.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Laurent

I seem to remember (and I could be wrong about this) that celluloid had been clasified as hazadous (flammable) for transport and storage, so I don't know if this has naything to do with why you are having trouble finding some.

Yes, Stewmac stopped supplying ivorid because of hazardous materials shipping restrictions, and panic spread in the mandolin world! However, I believe Martin, Grizzly and Saga still have it, as well as this guy (who I have only bought mando tailpieces from, but he started selling the stuff after Stewmac stopped and he has LOTS!):

Cellouid nitrate materials

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Rian Gitar og Mandolin

The Tor-tis looking sheets are transparent sheets with a print on one side

Careful with the terminology and names.

Tor-Tis is a name brand for a product that is cast with the color within it, all handmade. John Greven came up with the process, and all Tor-tis pickguard and sheets are made by Turtleworks. Excellent pickguards! And to add confusion, there are now Tor-Tis picks which are made from a natural protein product, which is a whole other things again(basically, it is cultured tortoise shell). Excellent picks, BTW...

The stuff you talk of with the print is a whole 'nuther deal... Ugh...

Careful with the terminology and names.

I'm talking about the pickguard sheets LMI sells, which look a bit like Tor-
tis, but ARE NOT Tor-tis (I know they sell Tor-tis sheets as well…). Those
NON-TORTIS are transparent sheets with a print on the underside. They look
OK, not great, and do not have the depth or detail of Tor-tis PG material. I
hope I'm being clear enough…
That being said I'm still looking for *real* old-fashioned, dangerous and
flamable celluloid.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

which look a bit like Tor-is, but ARE NOT Tor-tis (I know they sell Tor-tis sheets as well…). Those
NON-TORTIS are transparent sheets with a print on the underside

Argh! You're doing it again!

What you're talking about are the plastic tortoise sheets, not the Tor-tis(or Tortis) sheets. Note the spelling. One or two letters, but a big difference that can lead to much confusion.Mario38755.5015162037

Try Delmar in CT.

[QUOTE=Mario] Argh! You're doing it again!

What you're talking about are the plastic tortoise sheets, not the
Tor-tis(or Tortis) sheets. Note the spelling. One or two letters, but a big
difference that can lead to much confusion.[/QUOTE]

Mario, I know what I am talking about, you're the one who doesn't
understand me. Perhaps my French accent?…

Here is the LMI pickguard Tortis imitation sheet:

As you can see it looks a bit like Tortis (which is a tortoise imitation…)
although it is not Tortis, but a clear plastic material with a print on the
underside. Looks better than what Martin puts on the GE series -at least
the LMI sheet does not show the matrix pixelated pattern-, but no
comparison with *real* Tortis material, see below.

Here is some real Tortis (or Tor-tis):


This is Deep River Vintage celluloid "tortoise":


This is what I want to avoid with celluloid sheets (the pastrami look):

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

Arnt, thanks much for the website.
They seems to be vending only binding strips, and not the kind of celluloid
I'm looking for.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

<shaking head...>

Laurent, I know what you're saying, and I know what you're talking of, I am just trying to get you to use the proper phargling terms.

The stuff you keep refering to is plastic imitation tortoise. There is only one product named Tor-Tis™(and none are called "Tortis", which isn't a word). Tor-Tis is available in many, many variations, even custom ones.

So, please, there's Tor-Tis, and there tortoise colored/patterned plastic. And there's tortoise colored/patterned celluloid. Quit saying there's plastic
tortis. Let's nip this one in the bud before it becomes the next kerfings fiasco.

There are many different facial tissues, but only one is Kleenex. Same here.

Have you called GW Muscial? They may have what you're looking for.

Mario38755.7838541667

Laurent

The PGSLT at LMI maybe celluloid, the only reason I say this is that they won't Air Freight this one, which means it is hazadous for shipping, whereas the others they will.

Might be worth calling and asking, that is of course if it is the right colour etc.

[QUOTE=Mario] Quit saying there's plastic tortis. Let's nip this one in the
bud before it becomes the next kerfings fiasco.
Have you called GW Muscial? They may have what you're looking for.
[/QUOTE]

????????
I never refered to plastic Tortis!!!! I merely mentionned one product LMI
sells, which in my mind is meant to emulate the pattern found in the '50
Tortis pickguards… Misunderstandings…
I'm downloading GW catalog, thanks for the tip.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

[QUOTE=RussellR] The PGSLT at LMI maybe celluloid, the only reason I say
this is that they won't Air Freight this one, which means it is hazadous for
shipping, whereas the others they will. [/QUOTE]

Yes it is celluloid, I've ordered it before. But I do not like the pattern and it's
a little thin.

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Laurent Brondel
West Paris, Maine - USA
http://www.laurentbrondel.com/

I bet if you talk to John Greven he can get you the look your after. His pickgaurds are expensive in comparision, but the quality is high it's worth it, at least for me.
It's not celluloid, but it's great material. Oh, it also won't shrink like celluloid.

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Jim Watts
http://jameswattsguitars.com