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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:30 pm 
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Curious to know what the process is.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=602053256565362&fref=nf

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:07 pm 
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Yes. I used to do model cars the same way. First - make sure the body is sealed well. Don't want water soaking into the wood. Second, spray enamel paint on the surface of the water. Dip slowly. Remove remaining enamel, and pull up guitar. Let dry, color sand, and clear the heck of it. Voila!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:36 pm 
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NO, I don't know how to do it--except for what I see in the video. I'll admit the result might appeal to a market, or to you. The question I ask myself is: "Now...what is he going to do with the rest of the contents of that barrel?" Sure, he might have several dozen more guitars to dip. In that case, he'd keep adding colorants and carriers to maintain the volume of liquids in the drum. He'd still end up with a drum full of mystery stuff and he'd ultimately need to dispose of it. Pretty cool effect on the guitar if you're into that sort of paint job. I'm not knocking it. I just don't see its practicality. ...but this means nothing because it's just my personal reaction. I'm not the market, so my opinion really doesn't count much here.

One more thought: It's as capricious as the mix of colorants (and whatever keeps them separated) in the barrel. Suppose you dip and you DON'T like the effect? What then? How many times are you going to clean your guitar body and re-dip? There is no predicting that.

But, if you like it and can figure it out. I say go for it. I'm serious. It's not for me, but it might be great for you!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:06 am 
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Yes sealing the guitar. I was thinking of doing something like that with stains :-(. Perhaps a translucent finish. Looks like lots of practicing with scraps.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:50 pm 
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I've never done it but there are many videos at Youtube.

The water has borax in it-not sure of ration- and the temp of water is set- unknown temp.
After dipping the remaining paint that is floating is skimmed off with absorbent such as a newspaper or if the
water level is high enough in container can be blown off.
After removing from the dip the water needs to be lightly blown off the instrument...lightly enough not to smear the paint.

I imagine the details of process are not hard to find at Youtube. Search using "swirl painting guitar" for plenty of viewing.

Changed video...this one is better IMO and the sound is better too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rnleOuOkL8


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:28 am 
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I've wanted to do that. Magic Marble paints. No borax. Water must be warm though, so wait for summer.

http://www.peachtreeglobal.com/Magic-Marble-Home.htm


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:00 am 
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seems similar to the paper marbling done for book linings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_marbling

Also looks like the technique that some hunting arms manufacturers use to get camouflage finishes on compound bows and rifles. Seems like there could be a lot of potential with this technique.

Gun Stocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47GoiNECyVE


Video breaking down materials https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rdyYCj5rh4


Pretty cool paper art https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLlFcq3K3U


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