Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:59 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:58 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:24 am
Posts: 225
Location: United States
Anybody know a place to get these at a reasonable price?......or do they really go for around $18 a piece?

Thanks,

Doug

_________________
Guitars...One's too many...Twenty is not enough.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:33 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:44 am
Posts: 424
Location: United States
$18???

I just paid $23+ for a solid carbide one from LMI. Did I pay too much?

Stevesfbrown38778.9401273148


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:56 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:58 am
Posts: 552
Location: Canada
Nope... not too much. These little guys aren't cheap, but (if only used on clean wood) should last for years.
I have two, & use one only for rosettes.
I've been told that the HSS (?) steel ones dull in time, but are less expensive & do a better job when they are sharp.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:42 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:46 am
Posts: 2227
Location: Canada
http://www.ridgecarbidetool.com/html/spiral_shearface.htm

   I ordered from them before. Super expedient service. Quality parts at reasonable prices. If they don't have what you want, you can always custom order. Shipping was a killer in Canada though. (stupid brokerage fees... ).

_________________
I'd like to be able to prove, just for once, that money wouldn't make me happy...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:54 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:04 am
Posts: 313
Location: United States
First name: Paul
Last Name: Bordeaux
City: Massena
State: New York
Zip/Postal Code: 13662
Country: US
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
A (lengthy) search of" carbide end mills" in a search engine will result in many options and prices. I've tried several companies , but seem to average the price you quote.
good luck!

_________________
Paul Bordeaux
http://www.bordeauxinlay.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:04 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:18 am
Posts: 825
Location: Florida, United States
First name: Craig
Last Name: Lavin
City: Sunrise
State: Fl
Zip/Postal Code: 33323
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I use them as well, from Stew Mac.
The 1/32 break quick on me, so I go through them fast. I never searched for an alternative source. That price does seem right though.
Craig L.





_________________
www.handcraftinlay.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:51 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:16 am
Posts: 2244
Location: United States
First name: michael
Last Name: mcclain
City: pendleton
State: sc
Zip/Postal Code: 29670
Status: Professional
alain and others in the frozen north

noted the comment on brokerage fees in the current thread on router bits.

i don't know if it will help, but going this way, i.e. can to us, if my suppliers ship through canada post i am not hit with fees, but by ups , etc. they are brutal. needless to say since i discovered this i now instruct suppliers to ship via canada post.

you might want to check if it would operate the same going from the us to can.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:13 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:42 pm
Posts: 4217
Location: Buffalo, NY
First name: Robert
Last Name: Cefalu
City: Buffalo
State: NY
Zip/Postal Code: 14217
Country: US
Take a look here. I have used them and they work fine.
http://www.endmilldiscount.com/end-mill/micro-tool/pmt-tr-2. htm

_________________
Beautiful and unusual tone woods at a reasonable price.
http://www.rctonewoods.com/RCT_Store
The Zootman
1109 Military Rd.
Kenmore, NY 14217
(716) 874-1498


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:19 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:32 am
Posts: 7774
Location: Canada
Thanks for the thought Michael, i'll check if it can work that way.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:37 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:53 am
Posts: 2104
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
First name: Anthony
Last Name: Zlahtic
City: Toronto
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Bobc, are those downcut end mills (I couldn’t tell from the site)?

I use up-cut end mills from Drill Bit City for fretboard and headstock inlay. http://www.drillbitcity.com/

I typically buy them in packs of 10 in the sizes and prices shown below.

Qty     Part No       Name    ;  Price
1     307-R10EM0360  10pc Resharpened, #64(.0360), End Mills, 3 flute     $12.95
1     314-R10EM0625   10pc Resharpened 1/16     $12.95
1     315-R10EM0938   10pc Resharpened 3/32     $12.95

I wouldn’t recommend using these for cutting rosette channels as the upcut can leave a real fuzzy edge on spruce. Downcut are better for inlay but for the price I'll take the minor inconvenience of having to clean a little fuzz.
Anthony Z38779.4031944444


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:56 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:42 pm
Posts: 4217
Location: Buffalo, NY
First name: Robert
Last Name: Cefalu
City: Buffalo
State: NY
Zip/Postal Code: 14217
Country: US
Anthony if I have this correct Right Hand cut would be down cut. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

_________________
Beautiful and unusual tone woods at a reasonable price.
http://www.rctonewoods.com/RCT_Store
The Zootman
1109 Military Rd.
Kenmore, NY 14217
(716) 874-1498


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:20 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:53 am
Posts: 2104
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
First name: Anthony
Last Name: Zlahtic
City: Toronto
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
[QUOTE=Bobc] Anthony if I have this correct Right Hand cut would be down cut. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. [/QUOTE]

Of course right hand -- duh -- me! Thanks Bob -- those are pretty darn good prices...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:27 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:50 am
Posts: 3152
Location: Canada
Yup,

UPS Sucks into Canada. I use USPS whenever I can. It works the same as Canada Post does into the US.

Shane

_________________
Canada


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:58 am 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:20 am
Posts: 24
Location: United States
I get the double-ended carbide spiral end mills from jlindustrial. The 1/16" Hertel is SCM76062E and 1/32" is SCM76031L. The other big industrial (metalworkers) supply houses like MSC and ENCO also have them. They have "import" ones too but the name brand are under $10 so I haven't tried them. If you're in a hurry they don't charge extra for overnight in the US. I get my fret slot cutting bits (Micro100 brand) from them too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:23 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:38 pm
Posts: 1542
Location: United States
   As a machinist I use upward and doward spirals all the time. To be honest I never use them in my pearl work. The chips are forced downward and if you don't have a cleared hole the chips will interfer and build heatand block the chips from clearing properly.
   Yes I know some of you swear by them and go ahead use them if you think they are great I won't change your mind . Most trouble comes from the wrong grind not the direction. A good bit will do the job well and cut clean and cooler and last longer    My 2 cents.
Dremel bits just ain't worth the trouble for inlay. Get good bits. MSC and ENCO are 2 great sources along with a few others mentioned


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:34 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:40 am
Posts: 1286
Location: United States
Dremel bits just ain't worth the trouble for inlay. Get good bits. MSC and ENCO are 2 great sources along with a few others mentioned

Do these MSC and Enco bits fit a Dremel?

Mike
White Oak, Texas



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:18 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:53 am
Posts: 2104
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
First name: Anthony
Last Name: Zlahtic
City: Toronto
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
John, I am not sure I follow your post, what are you suggesting folks use -- up cuts or a fluted bit?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:02 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:38 pm
Posts: 1542
Location: United States
I use bits from MSC and Micro Grind. The are a 2 flute spiral cut designed for high speed applications. Most of these are designed for Metal and the 2 flutes will do the trick.
john hall


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com