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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:17 am 
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Was wondering if anyone used the Bishop-Cochran jig sold by Allied with a P.C. 310 router? It looks really nice, but it doesn't look like you could make a small enough circle, any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Hi Greg,
In the past I have used a Dremel with LMII's router base. It was okay for
cutting softwoods but it REALLY struggled with hardwoods. You have to
take very shallow cuts with the Dremel to get good results.

I have since upgraded to a Foredom - it is not a cheap alternative. But let
me tell you, this thing has a ton of torque and is the ideal machine for the
luthier. Check out StewMac, as they have a Fordeom handpiece with
identical threads as the Dremel.

It fits StewMac's router base perfectly - but I am not a big fan of their
router base. It fits LMII's Roy Noble base with a bit of adjustment.

I highly recommend the LMI base - it is transparent and is rock-solid.

The Allied Lutherie base looks to be very good quality - however, it is just
so big and bulky. The LMI base with the Foredom is a joy to use because
of its power and its excellent visibilty.

This is a good combination for any who are wanting something a bit
more.



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I saw one and handled it back last May. It was lying around in Todd's office. Very well made it appeared to me. Don't own one.

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I have one. It is one of the best tools I own. It has 1,000,001 uses. It is on my "must have" list.

However.... if you are buying it to cut rosettes with it you should know this.... you can't cut dimensions small enough to cut out your sound hole, and depending on the specs of your rosette you may not be able to cut the whole thing with it.

But I wouldn't let that disuade you.... it is a fantastic tool.


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Isn't rosette and soundhole the main reason for getting the jig?

I'm lucky to have an old Overholzer circle cutter that goes with a Millers Falls
laminate trimmer. Works well, but you can't get them anymore.

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Isn't he Zephram's brother?

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That's what I was thinking too!

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Does anyone still hold the patents to Overholtzer's jigs?
Seems like someone here could re-introduce some of those worthwhile jigs. That is, if legally possible....

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[QUOTE=Don Williams] Isn't he Zephram's brother?[/QUOTE]
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