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If slower equals smoother (fewer mistakes; less cleanup work to do), and
smoother equals faster (less time spent fixing/cleaning up), then by the Transitive Property of Equality as applied to the region of the shop housing my repair bench, slower equals faster.

And that is my excuse for taking an hour and a half on a 30 minute job.

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Woodie,
The corollary is that it is always a 30 minute job to the person who is not doing it.
Einstein postulated that as you approach the speed of light time slows down, so you must have been working really fast to take an hour and a half on a 30 minute job.

Slow is fast, really! By slow I mean not rushing.

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Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"

...and this is why little Sally hates math class.

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I can't tell how much I've speeded up jobs by shutting down the bench at ten p.m. Rework and undoing and doing-over eat up a lot of time better spent doing something else and at least getting some progress on the 'something else'.

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Peter Havriluk

Measure once, cuss twice.

My going fast doesn't always result in a mistake, but it increases the risk of one, and once it happens (eventually, it happens), I feel like a dang fool. And then I have to undo the mistake and do it right the second time (which always takes far longer), or start over with a fresh part. So, yeah, going slower and thereby minimizing mistakes is usually more efficient, overall.

However, I realize that I would have harder choices to make about how much time to spend on things if I were trying to do this for money.

Slow and steady wins the race.

And I thought it was only me!

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And that is my excuse for taking an hour and a half on a 30 minute job.


I just say "it's all about the process". No one can refute me and there's no math

Ed

I'm stealing that one Ed

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Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"

A job worth doing is worth doing twice!

I may be slow, but I'm not fast..

I hear that once you’re “over the hill” you start picking up speed


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Here’s my version as someone that works in a makerspace.

1) Hey babe, it’s probably going to be an hour and a half. (Not taking into account me being social.)

2) “No, seriously.”

3) What are you working on? Dang, that’s awesome. 20 minute conversation.

4) Start working.

5) “I’m on the way home.”

6) “I didn’t realize it would be four hours... Want me to get coffee?”

Alternatively, if I’m working on a “normal” project not related to luthiery, guitarmaking has made it such that I work three times slower than everyone else doing the same thing.


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No matter how fast or how slow I work, I always manage to do something really stupid on every project. It is usually a new mistake, and I always swear to never do it again. That's not math, just facts.

James

I never make the same mistake twice. Why waste time when there are so many new mistakes to make.

Ed

But if slower is faster, just think how much faster faster would be....

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Steven Wright: I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time.

My mantra: go slow, take your time, be patient. I don't always succeed at that. Making mistakes can be terribly frustrating. Making them in hyper-real, Matrix-style slo-mo is just depressing.

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George :-)

Ten pm!!! I'm in bed asleep by then, I'm usually through with shop work by 3 pm and on my porch with a glass of wine by 4. But then, I'm older than dirt which I guess is as good an excuse for as any for sloth.

I call that the 'koan of lutherie': "The slower you work the faster you get done".

In the book about the Voyager project they cited the hanger chief's rule:"No job takes less than an hour". It should take only ten minutes to sweep up, but it actually takes an hour....

I was never math proficient, in spite of lots of studies in the subject. That said, as my father explained to me - a cow is black, and black is a color, but a cow is not a color.

I've also heard this:
"You can have any two: fast, good, cheap."
When you go fast you get cheap but not good,
When it's fast and good, then it's very expensive! (;-D

My Father used to say

"I used to be behind before, but now I'm first at last"