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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:59 am 
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..ok. Almost. Still need to a) finish paying for it (when I pick it up in a month, ie when the shop space for it is ready; payed 30% now, with receipt), then b) sort out the motor situation (depending on what I find in the breaker box, either an inverter, or just buy a new motor and sell this 3-phase one off. 2HP, either way, seen some ads for second hand 3HP single phase that I'll need to investigate), and then c) set up dust collection and all that, but who cares, bandsaw!



It's a 22 year-old Cattini, excellent, quasi pristine condition (ie, the bar holding one of the two sets of guides - above and below table euro-style ones is a touch rusty, but that's really all I could find), 16" cast iron wheels, rubber/poly on them in good condition, 1" blade capacity, 10" resaw capacity, very solid frame (safety interrupts on both doors, emergency foot brake), smooth adjustment throughout for wheel alignment, tilt, blade tensioning, runs smoothly and quietly. Comes with 4 blades, 2 of them new, but I'll be wanting reccomendations at some point soon-ish, also from Euro sources. I'll need to make a better fence (the slidey bit adjusts well, but it's just a piece of wood right now), probably twiddle various bits and pieces, but still! Very much looking forward to getting this set up and running properly.

Cost: 750 Euros. Not a rock-bottom price, perhaps, but that's about 1/3 of what a similarly specced MiniMax, Meber or Griggio would cost including VAT.

Today is a good day.


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Looks like a beauty Mattia! Congrats on a great find

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Looks like it'll do the job. Nice big saw.

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Woohoo!! Mattia, you're on your way!

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Congrats Mattia, this is a good looking machine. Happy setup and cutting Doc.

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Nice looking beast you got there Mattia! Congrats!

Busy bee here have very decent fences and good thing you have casters for your beast!

Happy resawing my friend! Now start cutting up your furniture ok?

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Mattia

What a beauty

Sounds like a good deal to me, often the older machines are so much better, I have a 25 year old Elu Chop Saw which is built like a tank.

If it was in the UK you could run either a Static or Rotary Convertor, is this an option in Holland ?




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Now that's a nice saw. Hope you enjoy it.

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Congrats Mattia, nice score. I would highly recommend going the rotary
phase converter route if possible. Not only are 3 phase motors simpler and
generally built more stoutly, but a phase converter will open up a world of
machines that would otherwise be off-limits. And being off-limits to a
whole host of other buyers means they are usually cheaper too!

Congrats again, and start saving up for that carbide-tipped blade!!!

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So you went and did it huh. Nice say Mattea. Enjoy your new toy.

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Ooooh, tool lust.

Very nice looking saw.
Will you be able to do any studying with this guy begging for action?

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Now, you'll be cuttin' some manly-sized wood with that baby!


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I don't know where I'd be without access to a bandsaw! It makes all the difference.

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Bob: Yep, I gone and done it! Was too nice a saw to pass up.

Rotary/static phase converters are certainly an option, yes, but they are darned pricey, which is the only 'eek' factor. Like 400-600 dollars pricey. Hmmm. I'm keeping an eye out for second-hand ones right now, and I need to check whether there isn't three-phase power in the house already, by mistake, for stuff like the ventilation system/water boilers.

Steve: the killer right now is the waiting-for-the-saw!


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Mattia I run my 5hp 415v 3-phase using a rotary converter that I picked up secondhand. Small businesses going out of business are sometimes a real boon! I found mine in the local paper and got it for ?50 at a bankruptcy sale.

Nice saw though and at a very good price, I don't think it'll sit on the shelf above your television though.

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[QUOTE=Colin S] Mattia I run my 5hp 415v 3-phase using a rotary converter that I picked up secondhand. Small businesses going out of business are sometimes a real boon! I found mine in the local paper and got it for ?50 at a bankruptcy sale.[/quote]

Right. I'm gonna keep an eye out for that sort of thing, methinks. I've found a few that'll do converters for about 350 euros, which isn't too bad..

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Nice saw though and at a very good price, I don't think it'll sit on the shelf above your television though.

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No no, WOOD above the TV. Not tools. Just wood.



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Mattia--Have you checked into a VFD (variable frequency drive) They can convert 230 VAC single phase to three phase.

http://web4.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/AC_Dri ves_-z-_Motors/GS2_(115_-z-_230_-z-_460_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control)

(Couldn't get the hyperlink above to work)

Look for model GS2-22P0 (zero) $235.00


A nice feature would be the capability of slowing the motor way down for cutting aluminum etc.
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Nelson: most of the phase converters here seem to be 'variable frequency drives', so there's that. None that cheap, but shipping on big bits of hardware negates the advantages of buying this type of thing overseas...I'm looking at one for about 315 that can handle 2.2KW (3HP), in case I ever get something with a bit more power than this saw/want to run several machines at once. I need something that at least handles 2HP/1.5kW.


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But with a solid state VFD you could reverse the motor when you put the blade on backwards.


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