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Hesh,

Never one to skip buying a new tool, but Randy Allen does a similar thing with a "GO-Stick"...an L-shaped 1/4" "template" to accompish the same task...and CHEAP! You've probably got a bunch of them in your shop now, just waiting to get out!!

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Hesh, it's a great tool but it doesn't really tell you neck angle, you'll have to use a bit of trig. In simplicity terms, it's just an indicator mounted to a straight edge. But it's handy to have around the shop.


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actually it not that new They have been selling it about 4 years now


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i've used it for the past couple of years. where this tool shines is in the repair setting where it makes neck resets much easier to do with precision.


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I don't have it (YET) but what I like about it is it combines a persision straight edge with the dial micrometer. a lot more than one use from this tool.


Hesh. no appolagy need. didn't mean to sound corrective


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   This is a very useful tool for both new guitar construction and repairs. I made my own from a straight edge and a one inch plunger dial indicator. After working as a journeymen machinist and toolmaker for years, I have a drawer full of indicators that i use for different applications.

Any builder could benefit from having one around.

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Talking of neck angle tools, did you see the one that Taylor use as shown in their latest Factory Fridays video Factory Friday

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One very good use for this is setting jointer blades. Very good straight edge and a dial indicator. perfect too. Now if it only came with an exta hand to hold it steady.


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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Larry my go-bars droop........ [/QUOTE]

Not Go-bar Hesh, but Go-stick...1/4" thick ply or hardboard shaped like a long "L"...the "L" is the height above the soundboard at the bridge position, and the other end goes to the nut location...with the long edge of the "L" resting on the fret board....

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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Larry my go-bars droop........ [/QUOTE]

Viagra??


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[QUOTE=kiwigeo] [QUOTE=Hesh1956] Larry my go-bars droop........ [/QUOTE]

Viagra?? [/QUOTE]

Cialis...that way, you can glue as much as you want for 36 hours!!

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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] [QUOTE=kiwigeo] [QUOTE=Hesh1956] Larry my go-bars droop........ [/QUOTE]

Viagra?? [/QUOTE]

Thanks.... I know....... [/QUOTE]


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Martin used this for the last 10 to 15 years.


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[QUOTE=tippie53]   Martin used this for the last 10 to 15 years. [/
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Looking at your avatar it seems to have some unpublicised side effects [:
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Tippie,
   When I worked at Martin back in the early 90s, we used a simple straight edge with a small block providing an indication of the bridge height to set neck angle before bridges were glued on. No indicators or dial mechanisms back then.

   The neck was set in place and the bridge was set after. This gave the bridge gluing person a chance to select the peoper bridge height for and variation in nack angle. Bridge height could come in at anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8".

   Things have changed considerably since then and they have taken on a much more Taylor-like assembly sequence.

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[QUOTE=Kevin Gallagher] Tippie,
   When i worked at Martin back in the early 90s, we used a simple straight edge with a small block providing an indication of the bridge height to set neck angle before bridges were glued on. No indicators or dial mechanisms back then.

   The neck was set in place and the bridge was set after. This gave the bridge gluing person a chance to select the peoper bridge height for and variation in nack angle. Bridge height could come in at anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8".

   Things have changed considerab;y since then and they have taken on a much more Taylor-like assembly sequence.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars[/QUOTE]

Kevin,

I took Tip to mean the "L"-shaped stick thingie as opposed to the dial...I first saw it from Randy Allen, and have been using it ever since! Working at Martin must've been cool! What did they have you doing there?

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Martin has this but it is a go / no go gage set up. The pin must align to a certain location within a tolerance. Does the same thing .
   Sometimes jigs are overkill.
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Thanks John, I would'nt know what to do with this if I had one other than hang it in my shop like a host of other gadgets I have accumulated. I just use a straight edge, give it a good skunk eyeballing and hope for the best, so far so good.

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Just to clarify, Gauge is the tool. Gage is the guy

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