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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:17 am 
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Who knows other sources for either 1/2 or whole guitar templates. LMI has been backordered for quite some time. thanks, Tom


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Tom, what kinds of body style? most of us have the ability to trace one of our patterns onto some cardboard and mail it to ya.. ID be happy to. I have
a Martin 14 fret Dread, 12 fret dread, Size 5, Gibson L-00, MY SJ, OM, and Parlor. All with and with out cutaways.
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I didn't think there was any demand for these?
I do mine on 3/16ths plexiglass.. they look great and work great. when grading you can see where the figure will line up with the instrument..

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So how many styles are available and how much dinero?

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Guess I'll have to see if I can do a small run of them..
Monday I can get an idea of what they would cost..

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I just took a peek at LMIs website.. 20 bucks for a cut piece of acrylic.. seems kinda steep to me.. I'll definately look into this next week.

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Ill make a call monday and see if I can get some cut out of plexi or Lexan - as i said, I have L-00, Om - Dread, 12 fret dread - SJ - Size 5, Parlor , MY L1 - and a few others, maybe this could be an OLF product?

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Lance & Jason:

thanks for taking an interest in this. I would love to have templates of most of the major styles out of 3/8 or so lexan or plexi as long as they are reasonably accurate. I can trace drawings onto hardboard and sand to the line, but even there there is more variation than I would like to start with. My thinking is that if I can start with a near 'perfect' template then that minimizes any variation that I will introduce from that point on. I am anxious to see how this develops. I think this would be a great product for OLF to work with. thanks, Tom Harbin


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Lance, If you can make'em, it'll be worth the gas to pick them up myself!

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I'm not sure if you can beat the price at LMII. Lexan is expensive and plexi isn't nearly as durable. Here are a couple of links to where I've purchased plastic supplies in the past. If you already have molds, it isn't hard to make your own. I prefer full top rather than half top.
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Hey, I have been thinking the same thing. I made an OM out of plex, but it is not perfectly accurate. I spent several hours cutting it out and sanding, but I am still not happy. A machine cut template would be better.   I would be interested in getting some too. Sounds like another group order.

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I agree, I think we will have a hard time beating the LMI price, if and when they are available. I spoke to them on the phone Friday, and they are not expecting any more anytime soon.   Tom


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The only reason I think I can do better is that I get my current ones done for free. The guy who owns the lazer cutter is a friend from highschool/church that I've known for almost 10 years... He lets me hang at the shop for extended periods of time as long as I talk guitar with him (he's a fanatic ) He does the cutting and vectoring for free.. All I pay for is the lexan. I'm sure he'd be interested in running a batch of them if I actually paid him and quit clogging up his shop with guitar related unpaying work ;)

Lemme know Lance.. I don't want to step on anyones toes if you want to take a stab at it

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It would be fantastic if we could purchase body AND side templates. I would be in for L-00, 000, OM, SJ, and J Both of these with and without cutouts.


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One of the things I did not read in this string is the small variances in each luthiers models. For example my OM is 15" LB, many others are 15-1/4" LB. Not to mention slight location differences in waist locations and radii used. I could go on with other things that don't make a lot of difference as a whole, but if you already have bending molds and other fixtures the a "canned" template is not likely to match exact from one builder to the next. However, if you are just starting to prepare to build tooling for a specific size of guitar this could be a great way to obtain you specified shape.

Just keep in mind you are buying someone else’s pattern.


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If someone is going to make templates at a good price, count me in. I would love a dread and a OOO/OM.



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yea me too


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Side templates to match?????


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Hey guys I looked into this and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a problem getting a batch of these done..It would just be a matter of getting a plan for maybe 4 or 5 of the most popular templates ( I should have them already anyways ) and getting a limited commitment from some people who can guarentee they want one,two/a set..

Sides I don't think I can do..
1) they vary from builder to builder.. even the back templates would vary.. you'd only want to use these for grading wood or maybe rough cutting with a copy bit & spacer.
2) I don't think the lazer I have access to goes more than 24 inches..

Other than that I think you'd be happy with what I can do here.. Here's a picture of a Gibson SG template we did a while back.



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$$$$$$$$$????????

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I'm still working out pricing.. He does mine free but I'd have to work out a price per template if I was in there cutting a lot..

I'll be gone for the weekend but when I get back I'll get on this and get some price estimates and find out what plans I have and what plans I'll need.. I'll probably start with a batch of dread templates just because I think I already have the vectored file ready to go and move on from there.

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