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I banned dimethylpoysiloxanes from a bakery producer as they are really effective anti foams, just what you dont want with certain baked goods. Part of the problem was the infitessimally small amount required to make a cake flop. Im talking less then detectable, ie 0.03ppm. The way it was explained to me is that they have very high surface attraction properties so the molecules just keep on spreading. The solid fully cross linked silicones were not the issue (ie, gap fillers or greases in electrical boards) it was the liquids. The issue I see is when you get to refinishing time,

I dont know what concentrations are the issue for finishing but I expect there is a minimum that needs to be declared on an MSDS? The level that causes the greif may be below reportable levels.

Sebastiaan

Once you read the whole thread that become clear, but otherwise it isn't. The thread title reads like an invitation to post examples of luthiery myths (and other respondants have done just that), but Todds first post isn't a myth - it's a truth, posted to rebutt a myth.

Ack, my brain hurts.

"A guitar with a dovetail neck joint sounds better than one with a bolt on".
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(obviously I'm bored. I need to go make a radius dish or something)

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Brad Tucker

OK - Here are some -

Disclaimer -If you feel insulted by any of these, then they do not apply to you. Please ignore them and just consider the source.
These are just random musings without regard to anyone. Please don't take anything seriously or personally. Have fun! Please add to the list.

Guitars built with HHG are better and sound better.
Vintage sound is better than modern sound.
Heavy guitars can't sound good.
Bone sounds better than tusk.
Rough sanding on the inside sounds better than smooth sanding.
Forward shifted X-braces sound better.
Sound is round.
Intonation is more about the guitar than the player.
Nitro sounds better than modern finishes.
Satin finish sounds better than gloss.
Gloss finish looks better than satin.
Double sides are not the same as laminate sides.
Guitars are just instruments.
More expensive guitars are better than less expensive guitars.
Proper wood choices ensure the sound you are looking for.
Ebony is too heavy to use as a bridge.
All luthier built guitars are better than any factory built guitar.
A guitar can not be repaired if it has been exposed to silicone oil.
Cedar tops have to be thicker than 0.090"
A guitar with a back that moves will sound better than a rigid back.
The sound hole belongs under the strings.
Carbon fiber added to necks makes them better.
Bracing that is tall and thin sounds better than short and wide.
There is a treble and a bass side for soundboards and the should be treated differently.
It makes a difference if you tone bars go up or down.
German spruce sound better than Canadian.
Break angle is more important than string height above the soundboard.
Vertical grain on braces is better/stronger than horizontal.
Brazilian Rosewood is the best sounding wood.
__________wood is the next Brazilian.

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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." G. K. Chesterton.

Oh my gosh Steve!

You trying to start a fight with someone?

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"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."

That's it! Now I'm offended! Who wants to fight??

Ummm...Steve, I take it you've been thinking about this a while?



And all the rest of 'em that apply....

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Wes McMillian
Santo, TX
http://www.wesmcmillian.com

10 degree peghead angle is better than 12 degrees
Step drilled tuner holes sound better than straight reamed ones
Abalone is a sound killer
Pickguards are soundkillers
No popsicle brace is better
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a toosie pop? The world may never know.

no offense intended, either. All in good fun........
just stuff often heard........

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Brad Tucker

But I said not to be offended. Now I'm offended that you are offended.

You wanna fight? Just step outside. I'll be right there.

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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." G. K. Chesterton.

Just doin' my part! And she even had her silicone removed and it came BACK! Tenacious stuff, indeed!

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http://www.presnallguitars.com

I gotta love ya Steve!

It seems that lately I can make a post similar to:

"The sky is blue and I am giving out $100 bills to the first 10 people that ask me for them", and then I will get a thousand people wanting to argue about the color of the sky while nobody wants the money.
I assume that is what you are experiencing as well? I have no clue as to the reasons for this odd behavior.

Is it a full moon?

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Reguards,

Ken H

Speaking of silicone implants - I had an engineer friend at work who's previous job was making breast implants. He had several samples sitting on his desk.
When you went to talk with him you got to - well, let's just say he was a popular stop!

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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." G. K. Chesterton.

I worked for years with a chemist whose previous job was working for a company who put teflon coatings on metal parts using controlled explosions to impregnate the metal with the teflon.

Nobody wanted to work with the guy because of his explosive history.

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Reguards,

Ken H

Tortex brand guitar picks sound just as good as Hawksbill tortoiseshell.

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"After forty-nine years of violin building, I have decided that the search for a varnish is similar to the fox hunt. The fun is in the hunt."
Jack Batts Maker and Repairer of Fine Violins

Tight grained spruce is stiffer and better sounding than wider grained spruce.

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John Lewis
Wannabe builder owned by 2 crazy dachshunds

Tone is in the fingers.

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The member formerly known as erikbojerik....

Bell shaped truss rod covers look really great!
Flowerpot inlays are just...exquisite!

These are always funny threads as the list of "myths" grows and it becomes clear that they are all
really just opinions being expressed in the guise of a statement being an actual myth.

Many of the things that have been listed as myths are, in fact, very real and true, but then again,
that would be my opinion.

Funny stuff, nonetheless.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars