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 Post subject: Re: Wiring quandary
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:22 pm 
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Is that a picture of a 5 position switch?
And is that what you used?

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Filippo you should ask Deaf Eddie as it is one of his schematics. He has helped me out heaps. But for what it is worth I am seeing a complete Series OOP circuit in pos 4....Back-tracking from the jack, the hot goes from the jack-tip to the volume pot then from the volume pot through a dog-leg of red lugs to the negative of the neck pup... then through the neck coil and out the black lead to meet the blue lugs that then mates with a common lug shared by the bridge pup positive lead and the bridge tone-pot.

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Filippo,

I like the wiring diagrams from GuitarElectronics.com better than most. Try this link http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WD2HH5L12_05/Guitar-Wiring-Diagram-2-Humbuckers5-Way-Lever-Switch1-Volume2-Tones-05.html and see if this diagram will work for you.


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You need to check that the hot side of the circuit is not shunting to ground. Most likely it's small blob of solder shorting across pos4 somewhere.
Using your multi-meter, back-track from the hot side, ie, jack tip, and find where ground occurs.
One other question...Have you created a seperate shield ground on the single coil pickups?

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 Post subject: Re: Wiring quandary
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Pardon my ignorance, Derek. What would be a separate shield ground? Aside from the diagram I posted, the only additional wiring I have is the bridge post to the back of one of the tone pots.

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If you were using a tele neck pup, for instance, you must disconnect the ground wire from the cover and run a separate shield wire to achieve the coil's lift from ground in the series connection.

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Do the pickups cables have 2 cores and a shield or are they vintage gibson style with 1 core and a mesh shield?


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I linked the wrong diagram, sorry for the confusion. The one I meant to link was also a four conductor but is very close to what Chris posted. After reviewing the Tele diagram, I believe this is the correct one to use once you get the pickup leads squared away.


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with the gibson wire and the 2 shields touching as soon as the switch goes to reverse the phase it means that the switch puts the+ to earth and the shield earths to the bridge shield, therefore no output.


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The best solution is to shield the whole cable with heatshrink to prevent the cables from earthing each other


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That's more or less what I meant, Filippo. I'm sorry that I didn't explain it better earlier and save you some angst. I just didn't have it in my head that you were using single wire with the outer sheathe of shielding. Glad you got there in the end though.

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You gotta get all of that spaghetti out of the guitar. And those knobs and switches. Hollow it out and thin the soundboard. Then you'll have a decent guitar. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Wiring quandary
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Tony_in_NYC wrote:
You gotta get all of that spaghetti out of the guitar. And those knobs and switches. Hollow it out and thin the soundboard. Then you'll have a decent guitar. ;)

Yeah, but can you still play Smoke on the Water on it?

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Well of course. Just a slightly less loud version and without distortion.

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