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rlrhett
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I never do solid colors, but my niece has asked for a gloss black electric guitar. Can anyone recommend a rattle can for applying a solid black base coat. I will likely add a Mohawk clear lacquer top coat (although I’m always open to suggestions for getting a good solid black high gloss finish).

Why rattle can? I’m just assuming it is the cheapest way to get a one-guitar solution. Educate me, please, if I’m wrong. Perhaps lacquer is wrong, and I should go with some automotive finish? One of those spray cans where you slam the bottom to release a catalyst?

In any case, twenty years of trying to apply the thinnest finish possible and make the wood’s beauty shine through hasn’t prepared me for this request.


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If you are experienced with gloss nitro stick with nitro. Stewmac has black nitro rattlecans and Mohawk do too. If you’ve got a spray gun, just add a little black pigment to whatever lacquer you normally spray. Lampblack is pretty cheap.


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I buy Tamiya acrylic lacquer in the rattle can at Hobbytown, USA.

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Second the StewMac black rattle can, nice stuff. I've found the last 1/3 of the cans spit though at least mine did. Disrespectful things can't take them anywhere but I digress. So maybe buy enough with the idea that you will want to toss the last 1/3 of each can instead of be upset with what happens next.... ;) I would stop at the last 1/3 and then use that for jigs and stuff that did not matter, much.
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Stewmac rattle can worked well for me.
If you spray through a gun, Mixol pigment can be added. Local Woodcraft sells Mixol.
I used black dye on bare wood, sprayed black Mixol in lacquer, then clear coat.
Don’t fret when polishing. It’s impossible to remove swirl marks.

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Will Mixol make it opaque? I have Trans Tints, but I didn’t think I would get an opaque base coat with dyes.


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Mixol will get you an opaque result if you use enough of it.


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Mixol is not really a dye like Transtint, but more of a stain or colorant.
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It's not a guitar - but it's painted with Tamiya gloss black lacquer from a rattle can...

https://i.imgur.com/xEilJ4p.jpg

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Chris Pile wrote:
It's not a guitar - but it's painted with Tamiya gloss black lacquer from a rattle can...

https://i.imgur.com/xEilJ4p.jpg

That is very nice. Is there clear gloss on top, or the straight black?


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Straight black.

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Stewmac and Allparts has Black in a rattle can.

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